@iwillbite@mar77i there was a stat recently about how between 20% and 40% of lads under 25yo have never approached a girl, because they fear the consequences of being publicly shamed by women, filmed, and put on social media for laughs. Funny what the internets have done to guys.
@FailurePersonified It will never be the year of the "Linux desktop", as Linux is only a kernel and panic()'s on boot if you try to run it alone on a desktop.
It was the year of the LiGNUx desktop was 1995 or so, as finally you could use a computer in 100% freedom again.
GNU is more general tho. Linux can only mean really one thing, the kernel.
So when someone runs Linux, we know it’s an OS and that it probably is using GNU stuff. When you say you are running GNU… what are you running? Are you using GNU tooling?
@FailurePersonified >So when someone runs Linux That's like saying someone is runs a transmission.
If you say that you are running GNU, it means that a bunch of fine GNU software is installed, like glibc, Linux-libre, or GNU Hurd, the best coreutils, the Emacs OS, GNU binutils, GNU screen, GNU less, GNU tar, GNU gzip, GNU nano, GNU readline and so on and so on are installed - most binaries use glibc and other GNU libraries to be available and don't care about what kernel is in use.
@FailurePersonified >it’s like someone saying they run an engine The engine in this case is the physical computer hardware, as you put electricity in and you get operation out.
The similarity isn't great, but Linux allocate the machines resources, just like how a transmission semi-smoothly allocates the engine output power as the gears change.
>Linux is an OS An Operating System is a system of software that allows you to *operate* a computer.
This confusion probably results from how many people have written books titled as about "operating systems" and then proceed to only write about kernels and omit the rest of the OS (as it seems that's much too hard work).
>You can use run Linux on a machine with no GNU, it won’t be very useful but you can. Linux will not operate on its own - but you can install BusyBox, plus some other programs instead and have an OS that sucks - although BusyBox is depending on parts of the GNU toolchain for compiling and is under a GNU license.
>In the case of cars, if there’s only one type of transmission for a make and model, we just say the vehicle and the engine size assuming that “well of course it’s THE automatic” when asked. There are a few different kernels available for GNU and there is also Android, which uses Linux, so assuming instead of saying GNU/Linux or LiGNUx is to make an ass out of me and you.
>Meaning even they acknowledge that it needs an OS GNU is a complete OS as it contains several kernels - Hurd, Linux-libre, the kernel in Grub and more, although it is possible to run GNU with a proprietary version of Linux to make GNU/Linux.
Well no, it’s like someone saying they run an engine, as without the OS you can’t use the transmission. GNU tooling is more akin to a transmission.
I’m a car guy, when we talk about old vehicles we will often say things like “‘75 Chevy k5 w/ sbc 250 & 3-spd+OD TH350” which is a lot like when you say “GNU/Linux” without versioning ofc. If I said just that I have a sbc 250 on a stand, or in the car but no trans, that’s more inline with “Linux” You can use run Linux on a machine with no GNU, it won’t be very useful but you can.
Linux is an OS, it is what GNU is bundled with. That does not mean that GNU isn’t important. I leave the GNU silent as it is assumed that they are together. In the case of cars, if there’s only one type of transmission for a make and model, we just say the vehicle and the engine size assuming that “well of course it’s THE automatic” when asked.
Even in the GNU OS PAGE IT CLARIFIES TO GNU/Linux. Meaning even they acknowledge that it needs an OS