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lain (lain@fediffusion.art)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 01:08:09 JST lain probable future US vice president -
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kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 01:12:39 JST kaia @lain based -
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lain (lain@fediffusion.art)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 01:17:46 JST lain @kaia and redpilled kaia likes this. -
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Hyperhidrosis (hyperhidrosis@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 01:29:16 JST Hyperhidrosis @thendrix @lain
doubt it
He can say all the lies he wants
when he gets into office he isn't gonna do anything✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 01:29:16 JST djsumdog I agree. After this past week, I'm back to thinking the elections don't matter at all and all candidates are the same. Trump/Vance seem to be playing ball with the CIA now and they'll probably dump a shit ton of money into Israel and not pardon the Jan6 victims. -
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Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 01:29:17 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹 He wants to abolish the ATF too, so he's got some good ideas.
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Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 01:46:41 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹 It's not even about Trump or things like that -- right now you can get issues in the door as this is still the ground floor.
We got a fucking Davos sucking RINO to rush 2A policy in our state before an election as he was toast otherwise. I can't understate pivot moments like this are rare. Take the advice from an old man.
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 01:46:41 JST djsumdog Trump didn't start any wars last time. That's a first for presidents in my life time ... I do think he'll start some this time. Hopefully I'm wrong.
I've never thought there was any meaningful difference between any of them. Obama would have ZERO differences from McCain or Romney except in which countries they'd bomb and when.
Was Trump different? He was marginally better and marginally less corrupt. But he still "drained the swamp" and replaced them with other wallstreet swap creatures. He did some good work with tariffs and border security, I'll give you that too.
But overall, the president doesn't really control the country, nor the people. The CIA/DIA does, combined with some global interests. Even the corporate interests like Alphabet/Meta are mostly just puppet arms of the three letter agencies (Facebook starter literally the day after DARPA shut down Digital Life Log).
I briefly believed Trump was marginally different enough to matter. I think that moment has passed. I'm back on the train with James Corbett: it really doesn't mater who you vote for in the selection process. Except for 2016, the CIA controls what happens ... and I think they've taken back their authority even when Trump gets installed. If he tries to opposed it, they'll kill him for real this time. -
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PalePimp (palepimp@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 01:46:42 JST PalePimp @djsumdog @lain @Hyperhidrosis @thendrix How many wars did Trump start while he was in office? How many did he try to end? -
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Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 01:58:44 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹 The deep state killed its own funding, and even the courts have killed Chevron difference. Being black pilled right now makes no sense. They're so weak they're turning on themselves. The government in the US is set up to be adversarial, and the executive branch can just remove entire departments if they can't be controlled as long as congress isn't full of opposition. The courts already chose a side after the deep state literally tried to kill them also.
The Afgan-Ukraine string of failures basically ended the power structure as we have goat herders beating our Navy, and even African nations are kicking out the US military and CIA. Now is a chance to take them out while they're weak. Even their backers are turning on them as the failures aren't good for them either. You can make your own choices, but the cost to pay ratio is as good as it gets. :shrugz:
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 01:58:44 JST djsumdog Well I honestly hope your right. I'm still in the boat that Trump faked the ear thing, let the CIA murder two of his supporters and fully knew the situation.
I think the administrative influences go far deeper than you think. We're still seeing a narrative play out. I don't see why Trump supporters are suddenly believing the official narrative on a media that has consistently been lying to the entire world for our entire lives. You think this shift is genuine?
It all feels emotional. It's the same type of manipulation we saw during COVID. The media hasn't changed. People just want to believe in their heros and that they're not being fooled this time. -
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 05:56:26 JST djsumdog As someone that has used rifles for a lifetime... you don't trick shot something like that especially with moving targets
I said he FAKED it. Meaning no bullet. MKUltra's monarch program can condition a patsy to do anything. I think the CIA programmed a guy to shoot wide and murder only bystanders. If you look at the videos, his security forces all the photographers to the from ~20 seconds before the shooting. There are no pro-cameras behind him, and his ear is facing back stage. His service members then applied blood, or a razor, to his ear.
I think that's far more likely than a spook missing. People who love Trump don't want to hear that. They don't want to hear the first anti-war president of our lifetimes knew some of his supporters would die. They have an emotional response. I think Trump is just as much a part of the administrative state as anyone now.
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Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 05:56:27 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹 As someone that has used rifles for a lifetime... you don't trick shot something like that especially with moving targets. The CIA have always been a bunch of fuck-up coke heads. JFK was a contract kill is the only reason they pulled that off.
I think just like with the boycotts people are figuring out they actually have power. These people wearing MAGA hats in blue cities today is a form of soft power. It makes leftists afraid to act. When you sculpt stone you have to chip away slowly and be patient, but it's progress. That also means gatekeeping bad actors once a movement takes off.
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 05:59:13 JST djsumdog How is that any less likely than a bullet grazing his ear and missing his brain by an inch?
I think you give cinema levels of bullshit too much credit.
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Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 05:59:14 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹 You give the CIA too much credit.
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 07:08:09 JST djsumdog As for all the stage magic -- with that many cameras no way in hell
Have you gone back and watched it? Watch it really closely. Trump turns his head away from the crowd before the shot. The secret service move all the photographers out from behind the stage:
https://odysee.com/@TimTruth:b/trump-shot-new-angles:d
They immediately cover him up. You cannot see any of what is going on at all.
I'm sorry dude. I know grazing can happen. But there were not "a lot of cameras". All of the professional cameras were moved out to be in front of Trump. All the footage from behind is grainy.
If true, was it a huge risk? Absolutely. But if it's true, look at the fucking payoffs. Look at how you're defending it. Look at how you're going to watch that video, immediately hate the guy making it (I don't like Tim Truth at all) and immediately dismiss it as crap.
Sorry man, this feels way too much like emotional response 101. It was just too perfect. Maybe it happened exactly the way people say. The amount of cameras make zero difference in what people believe. Look at 9/11 and Jan6 and perfect examples. You will chose the narrative you like best.
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Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 07:08:10 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹 I've seen more shootings in review tapes and in real life than you'll see in a video game. You don't shoot around people like in the movies. Especially without a precision rifle and special match grade loads. As for all the stage magic -- with that many cameras no way in hell. It's much more unlikely than a crazy graze. Like others have said bullets do crazy things when they impact, and if it was target loads and bullets which is likely if he just bought the ammo that day without testing they can do even more crazy stuff.
You're having to make so many more assumptions with your theory. Also check out videos of the near miss shots that have been projected into a 3d visualization.
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 14:03:22 JST djsumdog That's a lot of mental hoops man. They were shooing photographers away from where literally all the regular attendees were? Because they weren't suppose to be there?!
There were people who imploded three buildings on 9/11 and murdered thousands of people, convinced billions it was terrorists, and used that to start multiple wars.
Why the fuck does anyone ever still believe the "lone gunman" bullshit? A lot of people can claim to view through the media lies, until those lies align with their world view.
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arcanicanis (arcanicanis@were.social)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 14:03:23 JST arcanicanis Or the Secret Service were shoo'ing them from a space they probably weren't permitted to be in to begin with, and it became push-comes-to-shove in lieu of possible escalating radio chatter about a suspicious person.
I believe it was less than a minute before the incident, is when a law enforcement officer climbed the ladder to the roof the shooter was at, had the rifle turned on them, and supposedly the officer ducked back down and could have radio'ed it in. I believe it was shortly after being discovered that the assailant suddenly rushed into committing their act.
Meanwhile, from the perspective of the agent behind the stage, it was probably getting into a "shit is getting really weird" situation, and probably then started enforcing control of the spaces where even the press shouldn't be lingering, especially if someone were to quickly weasel their way over the back fence, between the blob of press, and pull some unknown stunt. If the space behind the stage is clear, then it's easier to body someone to the ground if they leap the partition. While if it happens from the front, then everyone can see it and react faster.
I'm aware there were reports and indicators possibly up to even 30 minutes in advance of the incident, but meanwhile everyone else enforcing security only have the understanding solely from the location they're posted, and from potentially vague/cryptic details exchanged over radio. Only the sniper team on the top of the barn were those with a far more holistic vantage point of the situation, while the rest of the security were probably posted primarily around the stage and literally 'playing it by ear', with some of the reports seeming unusually surreal to be believed.
When you do security for an event and have to work with people that are terrible at describing something or bad at clearly enunciating their words (or the fact of some digital modes butcher the quality of the audio significantly, especially with the vocoder used in P25), it's another thing that can just add to the mess of inaction.
And to clarify: I'm not saying the security failure was excusable in any way; I'm just trying to give some first-person-like perspective to possibly contextualize it.
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 15:40:52 JST djsumdog The press were roaming within the cleared space, but probably not desired to be lingering behind the stage (but I don't know, I don't know what their SOP was).
You are literally making up a story.
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arcanicanis (arcanicanis@were.social)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 15:40:53 JST arcanicanis There's cleared space around the stage, then a basic perimeter fence around that. Then the risers of attendees behind that (and the chairs in the front). The press were roaming within the cleared space, but probably not desired to be lingering behind the stage (but I don't know, I don't know what their SOP was).
When you start hearing weird shit over radio chatter, then those in a security role start to get tense and probably start actually enforcing things more seriously. I don't think that's a big stretch.
It was supposedly less than a one minute time-window between confirming the anomaly upfront, and the incident happening. A whole cascade of events can happen within ~30 seconds of from hearing something like "There is a confirmed shooter on the roof!" of something, from a department of people that only met probably a few hours/day before (such as being a Secret Service agent hearing something on talkgroup shared with local PD, likely not completely believing it at first, but enough to start getting shifty/paranoid).
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