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Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 06:35:12 JST Aral Balkan

Dear designers and developers,
The opposite of “Yes” is “No”, never “Maybe later.”
#consent #dontBeCreepy #yes #no #maybeLater

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  Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 15:11:36 JST Aral Balkan
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  @0xSim You can always refuse to implement it.
  
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  Sim (0xsim@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 15:11:37 JST Sim
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  @aral Dear users, we developers are truly sorry but we're often not the ones who decide to implement obtuse or dark pattern features :(
  
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  Marcin Wichary (mwichary@mastodon.online)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 15:13:25 JST Marcin Wichary
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  @aral I disagree in that “Maybe later” became so common it helps understand the specific nature of the dialog. “No” is more generic and could apply to many other system prompts, but seeing “Maybe later” makes it easy to click without worrying and reading the rest.
  Plus, a lot more characters means it’s easier to target.
  
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  Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 15:13:25 JST Aral Balkan
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  @mwichary Maybe later helps us understand that the people who implement it have an abusers/manipulator’s understanding of consent.
  (Which is par for the course for Silicon Valley/Big Tech.)
  
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  Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 18:16:54 JST Aral Balkan
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  @sennoma Guess what made me think of it ;)
  https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/112786976634631347
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    Aral Balkan (@aral@mastodon.ar.al)
    
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    @DodoTheDev@front-end.social @Lokjo@mstdn.social @librewolf@lemmy.ml @Vivaldi@vivaldi.net Yeah, although I just read that they’re using the manipulative “Maybe later” pattern in at least one of their dialogs so that would be a good thing to fix for the future (I’m using Vivaldi too as my default browser.) The opposite of “Yes” is “No”, not “Maybe later.”
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  Bill Hooker (sennoma@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 15-Jul-2024 18:16:55 JST Bill Hooker
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  @aral Funny you should mention...
  https://chaos.social/@sennoma/112786939698525938
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    So, @Vivaldi@vivaldi.net, you've managed to really piss me off for the first time. I have not enabled crash reports, and I will not. And now I have a fucking popup asking me to enable it and giving me two options: "share crash reports" and "maybe later". No. Not now, not later. Do you understand how FUCKING INFURIATING this bullshit is? If the other option had just been "no", I might have been persuaded later. As it stands, I'm now back to looking for another browser. Foot, shot.
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  Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jul-2024 19:26:43 JST Aral Balkan
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  @camertron More to the point, I don’t believe in treating adults like children.
  
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  Cameron Dutro (camertron@ruby.social)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Jul-2024 19:26:44 JST Cameron Dutro
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  @aral lol you must not have children
  
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