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   Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 05-Jul-2024 01:19:36 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
   https://immunologic.substack.com/p/the-usa-exists-because-of-vaccines?
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 05-Jul-2024 01:19:35 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @jeffcliff Primitive vaccination using a live virus ≠ boutique mRNA not-a-vax.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 05-Jul-2024 01:19:58 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @jeffcliff i dont get it
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 05-Jul-2024 01:25:34 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @jeffcliff im not counting it as a true vaccination then, otherwise we'd be calling it variolation
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 05-Jul-2024 01:25:35 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina
     
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variolation
     
     it was a precursor to modern vaccines, starting in europe/US about the 1720s, china since way back
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 05-Jul-2024 05:31:57 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     • BowserNoodle ☦️
     @BowsacNoodle
     
     1) mrna vaccines *are* a type of vaccine
     2) it works as a vaccine to *reduce* excess death
     3) there's a 3 year gap between those two pictures *where vaccine escape occurred*
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 05-Jul-2024 05:31:57 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @jeffcliff 1. Maybe, but I don't think we're close to ready.
     2. Just admit that it's a piss poor "vaccine" dude.
     3. Vaccine escape was near instant per Doc and info that's came out, because efficacy was super low and a lot more people were asymptomatic than we were initially psyopped into thinking.
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     VIc FooReeee (vicfury@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 05-Jul-2024 05:42:20 JST VIc FooReeee

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     @jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle when are all these vax'd assholes going to start dropping? I'm highly disappointed in the promised outcome.

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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 05-Jul-2024 05:42:20 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @VIcFury @jeffcliff 🟥🦌
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 05-Jul-2024 05:42:21 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     • BowserNoodle ☦️
     @BowsacNoodle
     
     > Just admit that it's a piss poor "vaccine" dude.
     
     the vaccine is fine for a first gen vaccine
     *if we had bothered to reduce transmission it would have been enough* -- and saved many, many lives and bought time for lots of people to come up with more permanent solutions ( HVAC/air filtration/research into masks/etc ).
     
     > Vaccine escape was near instant per Doc and info that's came out, because efficacy was super low
     
     the efficacy starts around 99-100% but drops fairly rapidly (given the hundreds of millions of circulating cases). We need wayyy more rapid updates and longer-lasting immunity (which mrna vaccines allow for) if we're going to get this under control in practice though and especially the current vaccines in canada are in bad need of an update
     
     > and a lot more people were asymptomatic than we were initially psyopped into thinking.
     
     on the contrary it was clear from pretty early(apr 2020 at the latest) that lots of people would be