BeAware
The misinformation that will be spread here once Mastodon implements reply limiting is gonna be astronomical....🤦♂️
People already don't want you to shut down their misinformation campaigns and will berate you. I can only imagine how bad it's gonna be when we literally can't shut misinformation down...😩
THIS is a reason to be critical about Mastodon. They don't really understand the gravity of the features they're implementing...😳
Pleroma-tan
william.maggos
totally agree. reply limiting shouldn't exist, replies should be ranked ala reddit and the norm should be no admin blocks unless the person is being abusive.
BeAware
@kirby ??? Mastodon is implementing reply limiting at some point...
Pleroma-tan
Damage Control Blog
@wjmaggos @BeAware Hard disagree with this. Way too many people (especially black people) have been driven off the Fediverse by abusive reply guys. They harass just enough to fly under admin action. Or those abusive replies don't get seen because of private replies.
Other times you just want to say your piece without having to entertain everyone who demands a reply or making a followers only post. Besides, it's not like people on the Fediverse don't have other ways to call out disinformation.
Damage Control Blog
@wjmaggos @BeAware Quotes are not available on Mastodon, but they are available on other Fedi platforms. People on Mastodon can just link to a post's URL and reply above it effectively making it a quote post.
Completely quashing abuse is difficult when everything is so decentralized for better or worse.
But sometimes people just want to say their piece without having to entertain a bunch of replies or bad faith actors. Gonna have to agree to disagree on wanting everything to go viral.
Damage Control Blog
@BeAware @wjmaggos Quote reply, where you link to their post and call it out. Screenshot their post to do the same, etc. You don't always have to directly reply to a person to call them out if they're spreading misinformation. Now that is more so warning others about that person.
If you want to correct that person directly, provided they're not acting in total bad faith, you should still be able to @ or message them.
Just tossing out some suggestions.
william.maggos
quotes are widely considered a vector of abuse and thus not yet available on mastodon. limiting replies is similarly misguided imo. focus on getting better re abuse instead of tech solutions when possible.
people have diff visions for the fedi, but I want it to be part of everything we do on the web. I want every item to be able to go viral via boosts. an "attention democracy" vision. but then I'd also want the (ranked) criticism to go viral with the "misinfo".
Damage Control Blog
@BeAware @wjmaggos Feels like people have been asking for quote posts for a while. Asking for limits seems newer. But one (and maybe it's just us) can hope that Threads doesn't federate. Didn't they block a bunch of instances on Mastodon including .social?
On Misskey, do quote posts will work if someone makes a followers only post? Or is that just for public and unlisted posts?
And understandable! We just wanted to also get our own thoughts out there for a feature we wouldn't use ourselves. 😅
Damage Control Blog
@BeAware @wjmaggos Hmmm. Maybe someone at Threads realized it was a bad look? 😆
We've never used anything but Mastodon, but we've seen quote posts on other services. Comes out a bit weird looking if you follow from Mastodon though.
Same. Best we can do is push back on it, the best we can. No matter what the tool looks like, unscrupulous people will try to see what they can get away with.
We'll see when it comes out. We're still waiting on quote toots.
Olives
@damagecontrolblog @wjmaggos @BeAware What if someone deliberately provokes others (even making themselves as visible as possible) then hides behind the thing? I've seen this happen quite a few times.
ins0mniak
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@Hoss@shitpost.cloud I think Mastodon users should die.
Hoss Delgado
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