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   Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 01:37:02 JST Paul Cantrell

   • Real Programmer

   I think this from @sleepyfox is apt, and its hedge-your-bets true-either-way apt:

   If by some miracle LLMs do eventually manage to generate usable software better than humans, there will be vastly increased demand for all the parts of programming that aren’t syntax and basic code patterns (ie all the hard parts).

   If (as I expect) LLMs generate mountains of half-baked garbage code, the corps that survive will be paying humans to clean up the mess for a generation.
   https://hachyderm.io/@sleepyfox/112700667658775141

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 01:39:39 JST Paul Cantrell

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     As replies to the OP point out, the question isn’t really whether the software industry grows (it will, if civilization continues) or whether it changes (it will, guaranteed, as it always has).

     The question is who gets harmed along the way. When companies punch themselves in the face, it’s not the people in power who bleed.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 01:50:13 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Jenniferplusplus

     If my remark above about “all the hard parts” doesn’t immediately click for you — or if it does and you just want to cheer on somebody telling it like it is — I recommend this instant classic essay from @jenniferplusplus:

     https://jenniferplusplus.com/losing-the-imitation-game/

     See also this from my pinned posts:

     https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/110040662990948941

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 01:59:04 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Theodore Painsworth

     @itty53 @sleepyfox
     Yeah, I think it’s pretty easy for those of us who’ve been around the block once or twice to imagine how this plays out…

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     Theodore Painsworth (itty53@beige.party)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 01:59:05 JST Theodore Painsworth

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     • Real Programmer

     @inthehands @sleepyfox

     To be entirely fair "clean up the mess from the last group" is already a big part of my job in software development, no language models required.

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     Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 02:05:32 JST Jenniferplusplus

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     @inthehands I keep thinking about post-apocalypse fiction, where the survivors have lost the knowledge to make or maintain the technology left behind. It's not happening in the order I thought it would.

     Ubi sunt, I guess

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     Real Programmer (sleepyfox@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jun-2024 04:25:39 JST Real Programmer

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     • Theodore Painsworth

     @inthehands @itty53 So, completely unknown and unknowable for all the execs and C-suite then?