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    Marko Karppinen (karppinen@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 18:09:27 JST Marko Karppinen Marko Karppinen

    Netflix can now serve 100Gbit/s of video (so something like 12,500 individual 4K streams) with an appliance using 100 watts of power. That’s 8 milliwatts for each 4K stream.

    Remember that number the next time someone tells you that watching a Netflix show is as bad as driving an SUV or some shit.

    https://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/talks/OpenFest2023.pdf

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      Marko Karppinen (karppinen@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 20:17:48 JST Marko Karppinen Marko Karppinen
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      • Duco
      • Rich Felker

      @duco @dalias I run a small fiber network and can confirm that in principle there’s very little marginal energy cost to traffic. Our peaks are in the 50–80 gigabits per second range and don’t really show up on router electricity usage graphs compared to the 10x smaller baseline.

      That said, wireless is different. Also, much of the capacity is there specifically for video, so it’s not right to look at the marginal cost alone.

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      Duco (duco@norden.social)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 20:17:50 JST Duco Duco
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      • Rich Felker

      @dalias @karppinen just look at the router at home. It maybe condumes 11,5 W base load and when you download 2 GB over 1 hour it increases to 11,6 W. So if you don't turn it off, the 11,5W are used anyway. The 2 GB caused maybe 0,1 W extra electricity. I don't think that it's much different in internet routers (except them having more throughput). The big factor with Netflix is your screen. A Projector causes more emissions than a TV > computer monitor > laptop > smartphone.

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 20:17:51 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      @karppinen That's true, but the actual externalized cost of streaming is the network route between Netflix and you, not their servers.

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      Jeff Hobbs (jeffehobbs@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 01:54:52 JST Jeff Hobbs Jeff Hobbs
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      @karppinen Still more power than reading a good book by candlelight as I prefer

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      Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦 (osma@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 01:54:52 JST Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦 Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦
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      @jeffehobbs
      A candle is approximately 80W of mostly heat with a little bit of light as a byproduct. So several orders of magnitude more power than the 10Mbit/s needed to stream 4K video and in the same.ballpark as displaying that video on a 60" television.

      The qualitative difference of a good book and a Netflix stream notwithstanding...
      @karppinen

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