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    Sophie (labellaragassa@exquisite.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Jun-2024 19:49:49 JST Sophie Sophie
    • Aral Balkan

    The state of Unix/Linux accessibility is even worse then I feared 🙈 . Fedora has been shipping with a broken screen reader for NINE YEARS?

    Orca doesn't work on any distribution that ships with Wayland by default? 😭 (thanks @aral for bringing it my attention)

    Do all the distributions and such know that next year they should be accessible?

    I can't code and I am not familiar with testing desktop apps, but I would really like to know how I can help to fix this.

    (allthough it shows a bigger problem in open source and it's culture)

    Read more: https://ar.al/2024/06/23/fedora-has-been-shipping-with-a-broken-screen-reader-for-nine-years-but-the-real-problem-is-me/

    #accessibility #opensource #orca #gnome #wayland #screenreader

    In conversation Monday, 24-Jun-2024 19:49:49 JST from exquisite.social permalink

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      Fedora has been shipping with a broken screen reader for nine years but the real problem is me
      Fedora has an ableism problem but woe to you if you point it out.
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      13 barn owls in a trenchcoat (hauntedowlbear@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Monday, 24-Jun-2024 19:49:34 JST 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat
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      • Aral Balkan

      @labellaragassa

      I've not been keeping up with this week's discourse, but it's an area I'm engaged with (and at times require myself). I can confirm that Orca is functional if installed on Raspberry Pi Bookworm with Wayfire, which holds promise for Debian, at least. Not happy about the fact that my eyes need to work in order to get it set up though.

      @aral

      In conversation Monday, 24-Jun-2024 19:49:34 JST permalink
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      Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jun-2024 00:54:46 JST Alexandre Oliva Alexandre Oliva
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      are JavaScrippled websites, that can't be accessed if the user who won't let them install and run programs on the browser, recognized as missing essential accessibility features?
      In conversation Tuesday, 25-Jun-2024 00:54:46 JST permalink
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      Sophie (labellaragassa@exquisite.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jun-2024 00:54:48 JST Sophie Sophie
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      • Frank

      @fschaap Next year the European Accessiiblity Act comes into play, and it also applies to operating systems: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/summary/accessibility-of-products-and-services.html.

      It is not exactly clear how open source operating systems fall under this, but without more clarification I would say they fall under this act.

      In conversation Tuesday, 25-Jun-2024 00:54:48 JST permalink

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      Frank (fschaap@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jun-2024 00:54:49 JST Frank Frank
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      • Aral Balkan

      @labellaragassa What is the legal grounds that desktops should be accessible next year?

      Is that requirement applicable to individual volunteer programmers who share their code freely "as is"?

      Or is this requirement only applicable to a company like Red Hat who get paid to deliver a distro based on open source code?

      Apart from the moral imperative which I agree with, serious question... I worked on gov websites for 15 years and the a11y requirements for those was obvious.

      @aral

      In conversation Tuesday, 25-Jun-2024 00:54:49 JST permalink

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