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   Jessica Lam 👩🏻‍💻👩🏻‍🎨 (kangaroo5383@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 10:07:31 JST Jessica Lam 👩🏻‍💻👩🏻‍🎨

   Lol “bias automation” is accurate

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-2024 10:08:07 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @kangaroo5383 it sure is, and jeeezloueeeeez that result that the person is replying to…!

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     zarel (zarel@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 02:02:08 JST zarel

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     @kangaroo5383 from now on I will start interviews with "is this meeting 100% organic or do you use bias as a service?"

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     Bobbi Towers (btowerscoding@functional.cafe)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 02:02:13 JST Bobbi Towers

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     @kangaroo5383 I'll have a side of accountability circumvention with my deception engine

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     Marshall Eubanks (tmeubanks@astrodon.social)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 02:02:18 JST Marshall Eubanks

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     @kangaroo5383

     I think it should be called "machine guessing"

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 02:02:21 JST clacke

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     • fasterthanlime 🌌
     • Wolfgang Müller (DE:er/EN:he)
     • Florian
     • Klorydryk :unverified:

     Source for the upper post:
     web.archive.org/web/2021021619…

     Direct link to the interactive site presenting the work:
     web.br.de/interaktiv/ki-bewerb…

     The @fasterthanlime quote is from its own independent context:
     web.archive.org/web/2018092807…

     @muellerwhh
     @JFG
     @klorydryk
     @kangaroo5383

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     aspragg (aspragg@ohai.social)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 02:02:42 JST aspragg

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     @kangaroo5383 See also "empiricism-washing"

     https://pluralistic.net/2023/07/26/dictators-dilemma/

     > This is what Patrick Ball from the Human Rights Data Analysis Group calls "empiricism washing": take a biased procedure and feed it to an algorithm, and then you get to go and do more biased procedures, and whenever anyone accuses you of bias, you can insist that you're just following an empirical conclusion of a neutral algorithm, because "math can't be racist."

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 02:02:52 JST clacke

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     @monsoonrains @kangaroo5383 Remote interviews?
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     Resting Facebitch (monsoonrains@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 02:02:53 JST Resting Facebitch

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     @kangaroo5383 I instantly refuse interviews like this.

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     Kierkrampusgaanks regretfully (kierkegaanks@beige.party)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 13:04:59 JST Kierkrampusgaanks regretfully

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     @kangaroo5383 i am disappointed. I expected better of a thoutghtless machine that was programmed with our behavioral patterns

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     Qybat (qybat@batchats.net)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 13:05:06 JST Qybat

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     @kangaroo5383 It's the latest version of screening employees with a Myers–Briggs test. It's about as scientific and meaningful. But that's less important than being cheap and automatable, which is vital when screening large numbers of candidates.

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     Negative12DollarBill (negative12dollarbill@techhub.social)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 13:05:07 JST Negative12DollarBill

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     @kangaroo5383
     I've done a number of interviews with a guitar hung on the wall behind me and I'd love to know if that improves my rating.

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     Dominic (dominic@convo.casa)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 13:05:12 JST Dominic

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     @kangaroo5383 relavant: during the (ongoing) pandemic many public experts appeared on tv remotely from their own homes and this twitter account rated their bookshelves https://x.com/bcredibility?lang=en

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     Klorydryk :unverified: (klorydryk@mamot.fr)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 13:05:18 JST Klorydryk :unverified:

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     • clacke

     @clacke thanks!

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 13:05:22 JST clacke

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     • Resting Facebitch
     @monsoonrains Even if it's remote work?
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     Resting Facebitch (monsoonrains@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 13:05:23 JST Resting Facebitch

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     @clacke @kangaroo5383 Yep.

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     Lilac (lilacperegrine@clockwork.monster)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 13:08:43 JST Lilac

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     @kangaroo5383
     Would be fun to get access to that software and optimize to get the best background

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 13:08:43 JST clacke

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     • Lilac

     @lilacperegrine @kangaroo5383 It would be especially cool if you could make it real weird like those "place a sticker exactly here on the 50 km/h sign and the car thinks it's a little child" hacks.

     Like, the HR software thinks you have great leadership skills because of the mauve and teal pentagram in your lower left. Technomagic!

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     Jessica Lam 👩🏻‍💻👩🏻‍🎨 (kangaroo5383@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 19:01:49 JST Jessica Lam 👩🏻‍💻👩🏻‍🎨

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     @clacke @lilacperegrine or those anti surveillance ware that makes you invisible / or super great leadership skills must hire 🤣

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 19:01:53 JST clacke

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     • gkrnours

     @gkrnours What you are missing is that someone decided the criteria for inclusion in the training set.

     @kangaroo5383

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     gkrnours (gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 19:01:54 JST gkrnours

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     @kangaroo5383 well, the machine learned the bias automatically from the input data, the developer didn't need to put his own bias in the system.

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     Jessica Lam 👩🏻‍💻👩🏻‍🎨 (kangaroo5383@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 19:02:19 JST Jessica Lam 👩🏻‍💻👩🏻‍🎨

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     • gkrnours

     @gkrnours https://ohai.social/@aspragg/112627330814228254

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     Stephan Schulz (stephanschulz@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2024 22:21:30 JST Stephan Schulz

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     @kangaroo5383 To err is human, but a computer allows you to really scale it up!

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     Jessica Lam 👩🏻‍💻👩🏻‍🎨 (kangaroo5383@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 08:26:40 JST Jessica Lam 👩🏻‍💻👩🏻‍🎨

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     • HTZ🏳️‍🌈

     @Hunko i think “boring dystopia” is actually A Thing

     https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/06/boring-dystopia-way-world-ends-not-with-bang-wimple

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     HTZ🏳️‍🌈 (hunko@woof.group)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 08:26:45 JST HTZ🏳️‍🌈

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     @kangaroo5383

     We're in such a mediocre dystopia. Horrifying yet somehow lazy, bland, and predictable all the same.

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     Reiner Jung (prefec2@norden.social)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2024 08:27:30 JST Reiner Jung

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     @kangaroo5383 while back we called it bullshit automation, and just recently a scientific paper was published that arguments this distribution nicely.

     https://www.researchgate.net/publication/381278855_ChatGPT_is_bullshit

     Yes I know this is essentially a different class of problem, but the "learning" is done in the same way. And it flows the tradition of garbage in, garbage out.

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