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   Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 18:59:41 JST Sick Sun
   I started using regular YouTube frontend again rather than Piped because I wanted the recommendations, which overall, for me, have been very good.
   
   I need to do this to extract the channels I like so I can yt-dlp them
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 19:03:46 JST Sick Sun

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     I have an older Intel Mac Mini I can use as a media server.
     
     What media frontends are best? I have only ever used Kodi. I am looking for recommendations, please reply with them.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 19:09:23 JST Sick Sun

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     I just found Plex has analytics and tracking and now they hide features behind paid tiers, so maybe that is out.
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 19:09:58 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @sun Kodi really is more of a HTPC thing than a server, if you want it to interact with a server it's probably gonna be samba/nfs, as for "real" media servers, all i know is jellyfin. Plex has been pretty cringe for me.
     
     My current setup is just Kodi+NAS, which means I don't have a "media server", all the encoding/decoding happens on Kodi side, while NAS just serves files, downside to that is that it never really leaves my house and support for NFS on mobile is rather rare and honestly not a good usecase for high-latency networks anyway, upside that it's just kodi that does decoding, server is simple.
     
     I do want to move to Jellyfin, but the problem is that it kinda wants relatively beefy (read: not an SBC) system so it can do transcoding and all the good shit that kodi typically does, and I don't have that. I would also want an intel GPU for that as well.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 19:10:54 JST Sick Sun

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     @hj thanks, primarily I will use this to watch videos on a tv hooked up directly to it via HDMI. network access would be a bonus.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 19:11:38 JST Sick Sun

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     @hj It is sounding like Jellyfin is the way to go.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 19:12:56 JST Sick Sun

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     @hj I didn't understand that jellyfin is not an htpc :-/
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 19:15:57 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @sun yes, jellyfin is just a server, it has a WebUI and API, so just use Kodi at first, it's optimized for "ten foot UI" so to say. Get yourself some Rii keyboard/remote while you're at it. http://www.riitek.com/product/254.html i have like three of those + separate mini keyboards, and only one of those that has the "IR learning" feature works with my current TV.
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     Maija (SPW Arc) (maija@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 19:17:00 JST Maija (SPW Arc)

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     @sun jellyfin has worked great in my experience, though if you wanna be super low spec and disable transcoding it sometimes caused issues. not too heavy for it is though, extremely user friendly. they had a bug where sometimes subs would load on android but i dont remember if that was fixed by now
     theres also emby which doesnt really have much a benefit, jellyfin just forked it before it went closed source
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 19:20:19 JST iced depresso

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     @maija @sun there is some way to get jellyfin and kodi to share databases, or at least the metadata, though i didn't configure both at the same time.
     
     you don't need the transcoder if your media is already in mp4 which it almost always is anymore.
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 19:32:51 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @xian @sun for whatever reason, HDMI-CEC is fucking ass.
     
     I have a USB adapter but it has poor shielding/insulation so 4K60 signal gets interrupted every once in a while, and it works by emulating a modem/serial device so only specific things (like Kodi) can really take advantage of it, and even then there's a pretty big lag and every once in a while Kodi/adapter just spazzes out and refuses to work for a while. Only other option nowadays (that I'm gonna try out someday) is by using some specific HDMI-DP adapters (i.e. not all) that somehow lets normal GPUs to use HDMI-CEC over DP but only with some drivers/brands... And you would most likely still get lag.
     
     https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/HDMI-CEC
     
     Bottom line, using CEC just to use your original tv remote is fucking ass, only thing CEC is good for is to wake up the tv and switch input when device comes online.
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     Surströmming (selfhost arc) (xian@ak.kazuma.family)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 19:32:54 JST Surströmming (selfhost arc)

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     @hj @sun you can use jellyfin to serve media and metadata to kodi, with the benefit that you can use it on other devices too. I have this setup and its rather neat. With HDMI-CEC you can use your TV' built in remote in some cases too.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 20:23:02 JST Sick Sun

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     @jihadjimmy that's what I've done in the past because what you said was true, I was just hoping they got better
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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 20:23:04 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     > What media frontends are best?
     
     
     None, every single one of them is fucking dogshit.
     
     Just install a torrent client/ytdlp and an SSH server, mount directories with sshfs, you could run some job that fetches YT links from RSS feeds and downloads them, save yourself the misery and utter retardism that is dealing with useless media servers.
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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 20:24:45 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     @sun
     @hj
     
     It really isn't.
     
     From all I've tested, Jellyfin is arguably the most broken and insufferable one you can have the misfortune of dealing with. I warned @meso about it as well long ago, and he didn't listen, he paid the consequences (got pissed off and wasted time).
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 20:24:56 JST meso

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     • 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙
     @jihadjimmy @sun @hj you didnt WARN ME i just kept complaining to you about how shit jellyfin is because it is
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 20:27:12 JST meso

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     @jihadjimmy @hj @sun i just kept telling you that im using my friend's jellyfin because hes retarded and uses jellyfin because im too lazy to download the stuff and you were like "it's shit" and i was like "yes"
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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 20:27:13 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     @meso
     @hj @sun
     
     Don't make me dig for posts.
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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 20:29:14 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     @hj @sun
     
     I told you to teach your friend to use sshfs, that's pretty much a warning.
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 20:29:24 JST meso

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     @jihadjimmy @hj @sun i know, i told you hes not gonna do it
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     You Will Never Know Why (why@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 21:38:55 JST You Will Never Know Why

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     @sun i absolutely hated every jellyfin frontend i tried (~2y ago). i use plex, it does not give me issues from the UI end. it runs on my xbox, browser for web, and phone app. i sometimes have problems but theyre all because my server is a rpi 4 with usb hdds (i really need to upgrade).
     the phone app is a flat fee purchase but otherwise im using all free stuff. im not missing out on any paid features bc its all related to their shitty services which i also never use. i dont really care about analytics or nonfree software i just want a clean experience once i have things set up.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 21:46:53 JST Sick Sun

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     @guizzy I found a tool that's supposed to do it with yt-dlp but it's confusing as fuck to configure, I literally can't figure it out
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     guizzy (guizzy@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 21:46:54 JST guizzy

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     @sun With a powerful enough chip running it Kodi can be made to run tolerably (if not snappily). Keeping the database on a separate device helps if you're not running it on a computer. I run Kodi on my TV for the interface, to get youtube without ads and to get my media, and I use Jellyfin for remote access to my media.
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     guizzy (guizzy@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 21:46:54 JST guizzy

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     @sun and I have cron scripts set up with yt-dlp to keep some youtube channels I want an offline archive on for my Jellyfin server
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     guizzy (guizzy@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 21:59:54 JST guizzy

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     @sun tubearchivist is the one I tried, sorry https://github.com/tubearchivist/tubearchivist
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     guizzy (guizzy@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2024 21:59:55 JST guizzy

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     @sun Yeah, I tried Youtube Archiver but it was overkill for my purposes, it wanted to mess directly with the Jellyfin database
     
     I just have a script with this running nightly for every channel I want to keep an archive of
     
     cd /mnt/media/Youtube/SsethTzeentach && /root/.local/bin/yt-dlp -f "(bv*[vcodec~='^((he|a)vc|h26[45])']+ba)[height>=720][height<=1080] / (bv*+ba/b)[height>=720][height<=1080] / (bv*+ba/b)" --download-archive ./archive.txt "https://www.youtube.com/@SsethTzeentach/videos"