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   Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:30:35 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:
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     dilbert 1 (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:30:34 JST dilbert 1

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     @shrimp is that gargron
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:39:23 JST georgia

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     @shrimp rookie mistake, hes right about Judea being renamed though
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:43:24 JST georgia

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     @shrimp yes by the indigenous Israelites who are ethnically native Canaanites who became monolatristic and later monotheistic.
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     Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 08:43:25 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:

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     @georgia it was renamed to judea too before that
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     Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:04:53 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:

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     @georgia variations of the name Palestine predate Judea in the historical record but it's pretty irrelevant today imo
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:04:53 JST georgia

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     @shrimp but they were not used by Canaanite peoples, they referred to philistines or sea peoples. And it is actually relevant today because people say Jews aren't indigenous to Palestine or that Palestinians are the Canaanites and Jews are the invading Israelites when thats not true.
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     dilbert 1 (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:05:54 JST dilbert 1

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     @feld @shrimp well in the bible God gave all that land to the descendants of Abraham
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:05:55 JST feld

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     @sun @shrimp you know what drives me nuts though? They never taught us in Catholic school that the Philistines were ~ Palestinians. They did a bad job at connecting biblical history and cultures to the modern world. It wasn't even on their minds. They just wanted us to consume the Catholic Bible word for word
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     Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:14:27 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:

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     @georgia I haven't seen making those claims about history. I've only seen people say modern day zionists are invading and colonizing the area which is objectively true.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:14:27 JST georgia

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     @shrimp name a single Palestinian clan that doesn't trace their origins from outside Palestine at some point (excluding the one clan I know of with indigenous Jewish origin, their name means winemaker in arabic). by comparison Jews are indigenous. Call Zionists colonists all you want, it'll never change that.
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     dilbert 1 (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:16:22 JST dilbert 1

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     @georgia @shrimp mast ashkenazi jews have european matrilineal dna from converts
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:18:35 JST feld

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     @sun @shrimp Yeah I just mean if you go back and read it as "The Book of Palestinians" it feels much different because it's now a lot more relatable
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:19:30 JST georgia

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     @sun @shrimp literally every Jewish subgroup has matrilineal DNA from converts. the only difference is in mizrahi Jews its from Arabs and Persians and Berbers and in Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews its Southern European. That doesn't change that all these three Jewish groups have a common levantine paternal heritage similar to Druze and Lebanese (Phoenicians).
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     Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:23:06 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:

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     @georgia As I just said, it's irrelevant to what's happening now. Having some genetic heritage dating back thousands of years does not entitle you to go immigrate and kick out the current inhabitants, and that's ignoring that ashkenazis are almost entirely european.
     
     I'm not entitled to go back to Scottland and kick out whoever happens to be living there now and I have a MUCH stronger historic and genetic claim to scottland than modern Israelis have to Israel.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:23:06 JST georgia

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     @shrimp Ahskenazis are not almost entirely European, thats a myth. They are patrilineally largely levantine matrilineally southern European. being half indigenous is still indigenous. and if you were kicking out people from Scotland who were mostly 7th century conquerors and later (again, name an indigenous Palestinian clan) I'd argue you would have at least as much of a right to the land as them.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:25:52 JST georgia

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     @shrimp and do you have a religion and culture rooted in ancient Scotland? I really dont think so. You'll never understand the feeling observant Jews have in their ancient homeland, knowing their ancestors walked the same land of prophets and warrior prophets. Islam stole the Jewish peoples religion and the Jewish peoples land, but again, you'd never understand what that feels like.
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     dilbert 1 (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:27:25 JST dilbert 1

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     @shrimp @georgia if it was just about moving there it would be one thing but effectively when you move there you're asserting being gone over a thousand years gets you a pass back in and you buttress a government actively kicks out people that were living there for the last 800
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     dilbert 1 (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:28:32 JST dilbert 1

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     @shrimp @georgia it;s not even my fight and I don't want to care but my tax money pays for the shit
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:28:48 JST georgia

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     @sun @shrimp I dont support kicking anyone out of their homes, I just object to it being called a colonizing movement because Jews are indigenous and Arabs were themselves colonizers.
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     dilbert 1 (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:29:43 JST dilbert 1

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     @georgia @shrimp ok well I don't think its a colonizing movement because the people are jews and not entitled, I think it's a colonizing movement because it is one.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:30:14 JST georgia

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     @shrimp there's nothing worse than what happened in the post Bar Kochba revolt genocide going on, but either way I agree with you. I dont support crimes against the innocent and I think the settlements are harmful to peace and illegal.
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     Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:30:15 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:

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     @georgia Neither will you since it happened centuries before you were born. But again, it's entirely irrelevant. Some ancient wrong visited upon your ancestors generations ago does not entitle you to do the same (or worse) to innocent people in the present day
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:38:39 JST georgia

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     @vriska @shrimp @sun rose I'm having goodles :)
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     『VRISKA』 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:38:40 JST 『VRISKA』

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     @shrimp @georgia @sun yeah I want them committing murder on my rogue immune system instead

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     『VRISKA』 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:38:41 JST 『VRISKA』

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     @sun @georgia @shrimp my feelings on the middle east situation is that my tax dollars should have been paying for my healthcare and it starts and ends there

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     Shranemone :shrimp_stars2: (shrimp@shrimpposter.club)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:38:41 JST Shranemone :shrimp_stars2:

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     @vriska @sun @georgia Agree, but also I also don't want my tax dollars being used to commit murder on behalf of a rogue ethnostate.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:46:16 JST georgia

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     @vriska @sun @shrimp I would but I just ate it all >.<
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     『VRISKA』 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 09:46:17 JST 『VRISKA』

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     @georgia @sun @shrimp can you send me some I'm hungry

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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 10:43:39 JST georgia

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     @gav @sun @shrimp most Jewish ethnic groups are indigenous actually
     https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30487-6
     https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3032072/
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     gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 10:43:40 JST gav

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     @georgia @sun @shrimp jews arent indigenous, there are some jews that are.
     palestinians are around 20% arab, also part turk, as is the case for samaritan jews, mizrahi jews are part turk or armenian or iranian, yemini jews are part arab
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 10:53:48 JST georgia

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     @gav @sun @shrimp having an (even partial) genetic and cultural origin in a place makes you indigenous mate.
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     gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 10:53:49 JST gav

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     @georgia @sun @shrimp doesnt say that, samaitans are equally indigenous to muslim levantines, other jews are not