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   silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:21:52 JST silverpill

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   • Steven Bell :pci:
   • err head :pc2black: 🏴‍☠️ ✂️

   @errhead @StevenB

   >Monero or Hive will get an order of magnitude more push back than Bitcoin.

   Idk about Hive, but the usual criticisms like "wastes energy" and "used only for speculation" are harder to use against Monero. My observation is that Monero is more palatable to people outside of the crypto community than most other coins. Of course, there's "used by criminals" narrative, but it also applies to secure messengers and tools like Tor.

   >Have yet to find a non-crypto non-fiat micropayment system that didn't stink incredibly of scam

   GNU Taler depends on fiat but still might be interesting: https://taler.net

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     err head :pc2black: 🏴‍☠️ ✂️ (errhead@podcastindex.social)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:21:53 JST err head :pc2black: 🏴‍☠️ ✂️

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     • Steven Bell :pci:

     @StevenB

     I've pondered this and there are Issues.

     - With fiat you get gatekeepers and anti-V4V policies.

     - Any crypto gets a ton of push back from listeners and creators due to media FUD. Monero or Hive will get an order of magnitude more push back than Bitcoin.

     - Have yet to find a non-crypto non-fiat micropayment system that didn't stink incredibly of scam

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     Steven Bell :pci: (stevenb@podcastindex.social)'s status on Monday, 03-Jun-2024 02:21:54 JST Steven Bell :pci:

     Throwing this out there for discussion.

     It's there any particular reason we've all latched onto lightning as the best solution for programmable value exchange?

     Are there other solutions that allow for splits (this is a non-negotiable for me) but solve the problems we're having with lightning?

     I'm pretty pragmatic, so don't care what the solution is as long as it solves the problems, and since currencies can be converted, I'm not sold that BTC is the only or even best way for v4v.