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   mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 10:26:44 JST mcc

   Is this a good time to bring up my deeply held belief that people should be allowed to vote in elections even if they are convicted felons

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 10:26:47 JST mcc

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     Anybody wanna poll some Republicans real quick on how they feel about that one

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     Cat West (catawu@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 10:26:49 JST Cat West

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     @mcc I think they should vote even if they are in prison. That might bring attention to the overpopulation in prisons, and we might see improvements on how we treat humans we convict.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 10:26:50 JST mcc

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     @Catawu also would put an end to the thing where putting a big prison in a congressional district means the votes of the people in that district are amplified by the population count of the prisoners who can't vote

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     Joe (not2b@sfba.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 10:26:53 JST Joe

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     @mcc Trump will still be allowed to vote in Florida, because he was convicted in New York, so New York rules about losing voting rights apply. In New York, he can still vote unless he's actually in prison.

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     Liam Pomfret, PhD (liampomfret@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 10:26:54 JST Liam Pomfret, PhD

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     @mcc Honestly, yes. It would be irresponsible to not exploit the situation and get a bill up for a vote right now giving all convicted felons across the US the right to vote. What Republican is going to dare to be seen as opposing Convicted Felon Donald Trump’s ability to vote?

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 10:26:54 JST mcc

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     • Liam Pomfret, PhD

     @liampomfret note I'm fudging the degree of applicability but there's no reason we have to voluntarily bring that up in a votes-for-prisoners campaign https://sfba.social/@not2b/112532277721056031

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     Nicole (streganil@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 10:27:08 JST Nicole

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     @mcc what about my deeply held belief that residents (both documented and undocumented) have far more of an argument that they should be allowed to vote than non-resident citizens.

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     mcc (mcc@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 10:27:11 JST mcc

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     @streganil I think this is a very interesting point. As an American in Canada it certainly feels weird to me I can't vote in the city I live in but I get to vote on the school board in a random ass town in Massachusetts

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     ahimsa (ahimsa_pdx@disabled.social)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 10:30:18 JST ahimsa

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     @mcc Agreed! I think both Maine and Vermont allow voting while in prison.

     Edit: I thought I should add a link with actual data since my comment was based on my very faulty memory:

     https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_rights_for_people_convicted_of_a_felony

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     drmorr (drmorr@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 10:30:23 JST drmorr

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     @mcc I don't have any problems whatsoever allowing convicted felons to vote.

     I have a very very large problem allowing convicted felons to be president.

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     M.S. Bellows, Jr. (msbellows@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 09:06:04 JST M.S. Bellows, Jr.

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     @juergen_hubert @woo @Catawu @mcc The U.S. incarceration system literally is a response to a seemingly-harmless clause in the 13th Amendment: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, >>>except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted<<<, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." Slavers and other racists realized that mass prosecution of Blacks could partially reinstate slavery, and then that, hey, cool, it also can be used to keep them from voting!

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     Jürgen Hubert (juergen_hubert@thefolklore.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 09:06:05 JST Jürgen Hubert

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     @woo @Catawu @mcc I dunno, but I don't think it's a coincidence that (a) much of the USA denies felons the right to vote, and (b) the USA mass-produces felons on a scale unsurpassed by almost any other country in the world.

     I get the feeling that a lot of these people behind bars shouldn't be there in the first place.

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     Andy Wootton (woo@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2024 09:06:06 JST Andy Wootton

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     @Catawu @mcc Prisoners don't vote in sufficient numbers to make much difference. If they did, I'd have other objections.
     I recently discovered I don't like criminals having any say in the laws of the land. When they are rehabilitated, they can vote again.
     Democracy is too blunt an instrument for improving prisons