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:watamelon: Xylo ? (qwerty@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:48:27 JST :watamelon: Xylo ? If Trump becomes president, can he pardon himself of his felony? -
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FreeinTX (freeintx@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:48:24 JST FreeinTX @PunishedD @qwerty It won't stand on appeal. Every time the judge over-ruled the defense or sustained an objection by the prosecutors, is grounds for appeal. BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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PunishedD (punishedd@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:48:25 JST PunishedD @FreeinTX @qwerty He should do it anyway. Every lawsuit against him is filled with unprecedented explorations of the law. What is NY going to do, sue him for doing federalism wrong? -
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FreeinTX (freeintx@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:48:26 JST FreeinTX @qwerty No. New York state crimes are not his to pardon. -
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sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:53:22 JST sapphire @FreeinTX @Goalkeeper @PunishedD @qwerty I'm not doxing a personal friend because you're mad about orange man. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:53:22 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ @sapphire @Goalkeeper @FreeinTX @PunishedD @qwerty Fake, gay, RWL -
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sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:53:24 JST sapphire @FreeinTX @Goalkeeper @PunishedD @qwerty NAL but this guy is -
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FreeinTX (freeintx@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:53:24 JST FreeinTX @sapphire @Goalkeeper @PunishedD @qwerty Would love to know what case he's talking about, and who exactly that is making that assertion. -
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Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:53:25 JST Goalkeeper The state makes the jury instructions and they are voted on by the courts. It's not like the judge pulled them out of his ass.
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FreeinTX (freeintx@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:53:25 JST FreeinTX @Goalkeeper @sapphire @PunishedD @qwerty Instructing the jury that they do not have to agree on what, exactly, is the underlying crime that made this misdemeanor, passed the statute of limitations, into a 34 count felony was NOT something made by the "state" or voted on by anyone. That was the judge's instructions. And, given that no one has ever been tried on these charges in this way, eg. a novel interpretation of the law, means that there is no standing or prior precedents for how to handle this case. One of many grounds for apoeal. -
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Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:53:26 JST Goalkeeper Did they change the standard Jury instructions? If not then that's not reversible error and even if they did it's still probably not reversible error. Every state has bog standard Jury instructions that they use for every trial that judges don't fuck with for a reason.
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sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:53:26 JST sapphire @Goalkeeper @FreeinTX @PunishedD @qwerty every fucking retard believed the right wing news outlets when they said WAAAAH JURY INSTRUCTIONS BAD and didn't bother actually reading them.
I'd post my group chat about it with my law-adjacent buddies but real names -
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FreeinTX (freeintx@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:53:27 JST FreeinTX @Goalkeeper @PunishedD @qwerty I doubt it. Appeals require a findings of facts and law. The higher judges will have to explain why the decisions they make are apt. And no, it is not just about the evidence, itself. Reversible error is grounds for appeal. -
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PunishedD (punishedd@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:53:27 JST PunishedD @FreeinTX @Goalkeeper @qwerty I'm pretty sure the jury instructions are an automatic appeal win. Not sure what the remedy would be for trial error like that, I assume a whole new trial. -
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sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:53:27 JST sapphire @PunishedD @Goalkeeper @FreeinTX @qwerty jury instructions were bog standard, this isn’t getting overturned. Trump is a felon, it’s done and dusted.
Just makes the election season infinitely funnier anyway -
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Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 07:53:28 JST Goalkeeper Appellate courts don't care unless their was some grievous error with the evidence itself, judges will circle the wagons.
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