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   Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 02:40:42 JST Bread up, Bro
   I appreciate the argument everyone is having - but remember the most powerful thing the system has on people right now is the fact that if you vote in the system, it doesn't matter if you win, you authorize the actions.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 04:21:46 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • dogslurp, a fine gentleman
     @dogslurp the authorization isn't what is binding the politicians to the system, but the people to the system.
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     dogslurp, a fine gentleman (dogslurp@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 04:21:48 JST dogslurp, a fine gentleman

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     @sickburnbro "I'm fully authorized according to the vote cast by John Smith in Smalltown, Maryland!" shouts the politician as he gives more money to Israel.
     
     "Me too! I'm authorized!" shouts the other politician.
     
     "We're all authorized!" they shout in unison.
     
     If only the voters had listened they wouldn't have authorized it. Authorization would have been withdrawn and the system would've collapse due to a lack of authorization.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 04:22:35 JST Bread up, Bro

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     • dogslurp, a fine gentleman
     @dogslurp but yes, people believing a system is legitimate is long term the only thing that keeps it around.
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     Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 22:29:47 JST Växẍ Säbbäth

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     @sickburnbro the best take seems to be "use your own judgment"

     there isn't a clear grand-strategic conclusion either in favor of voting or against; at best, it is a tactical and situational exercise, and there are justifications both ways

     fixing this system is definitionally unachievable by "vote", but certain votes may constitute useful obstructive actions

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     That Would Be Telling (thatwouldbetelling@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 31-May-2024 22:29:47 JST That Would Be Telling

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     • Växẍ Säbbäth

     @VaxxSabbath @sickburnbro Again time to point out at at least the local level Heinlein's dictum that you can always vote against someone has merit. In my corner of deep Red State America we've removed a lot of bad actors (in the primaries of course), and spiked and continue to spike a bunch of new taxes after our local ruling trash showed they couldn't be trusted with most categories of them.

     Above that level, not seeing much point in voting, our state GOPe are ever more that, and, well, I don't have to write an essay about Presidential elections.

     Although I can note there's no fucking way "Biden" will honestly win in November, this is a variation on a theme of 1980. People get wacked in the face every time they fill their gas tanks and grocery shop.

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