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   Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 13:10:24 JST Tyler
   Remember to read your KJV friends.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 13:10:23 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @tyler can somebody explain to me in a few sentences why KJV is the best and the rest are bad? Not trying to hellthread, so feel free to quote for a new thread if ya want.
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     Jonaschuzzlewit (jonaschuzzlewit@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 13:12:48 JST Jonaschuzzlewit

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     It had the least jew influence in translation is I think the short answer
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     mackya (mackya@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 13:12:48 JST mackya

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     I’m no expert, but I’m assuming it’s the least jewish version.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 13:20:35 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @tyler Summarizing this thing I just read, they pulled a lot of early Greek translations for the NT. I don't see the source on the OT. Seems to be the ye olde "best of" translation attempt, which would be good for the fact that it has strong resistance to modernism if nothing else. I'm sure there's more to it.
     
     followintruth.com/what-manuscripts-did-the-kjv-translators-use
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 14:23:31 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @tyler >-1, 0, 1:
     I don't have any problem with this logic, and I absolutely agree with point "-1". The things I've seen have been insignificant differences and are, by my understanding, more of a question of potential clarification text or copy errors. My standard Bible is NKJV or BSB via Bible hub, or RSV second edition NT Catholic Study Bible. I find little differences between these, although sometimes the wording is smoother on one or another. The study Bible is great because it's loaded with footnotes. One can make an argument for updated translations as a fulfillment of The Great Commission, especially if they're true in spirit and accuracy, although I do lean towards more of a prescriptivist take. The question becomes whether "the earliest" is the most accurate for textual variants, and I'm in no position to say.
     
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     My ancestors likely used other translations. I find KJV perfectly valid, and I don't hate on it like some of the turbospergs I've met.
     
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     I'm not too familiar with those, but I do agree there are other good versions. IMO the best Bible is the one you read regularly, provided it doesn't neuter the language and Word of God—literally and figuratively.
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     Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 14:23:32 JST Tyler

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     -1. This only matters if a person actually cares about what the Bible says, as in, believes that it is the Word of God, the very same Word that was made flesh, and heeds the warning of the last book of the Bible - where God makes a promise to curse anyone who tampers with his words.
     
     0. KJV is not just one single translation, but includes a few linguistic revisions from 1611 to 1769. Most notably, the u/v swap. The 1769 revision is the most common today. Between revisions, meaning remained unchanged.
     
     1. KJV is based on the traditionally used texts, based on several thousand copies of Hebrew and Greek Bibles, whereas modern translations favor minority text translations - which significantly change meaning of (or completely leave out) certain passages.
     
     2. KJV has been the English standard for over 400 years. It's what our ancestors used.
     
     3. There are other good Bibles, like the Bishops, Geneva, and Tyndale NT, but those do not have the linguistic conveniences of the 1769 and were based on a single copy of the Heb/Greek Bible, instead of the common verse between several thousand.
     
     I don't see a need for a new Bible, when the KJV suits all our needs. The NASB has been lauded as a contender, but IIRC by dropping the thee/thou/ye/etc it makes many interactions confusing about who is talking to who. I think it may have other issues, but I haven't picked it apart as much as I have the ESV/NIV abominations.
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     nugger@poa.st's status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 14:26:03 JST nugger

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     @BowsacNoodle @tyler >early Greek translations for the NT
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 14:26:03 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @nugger @tyler I am not sure what you're trying to say Mr. Nugger, please explain.
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     nugger@poa.st's status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 14:32:21 JST nugger

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     @BowsacNoodle @tyler KJV IS CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT TO AMERICANS
     TRANSLATIONS HISTORICALLY GET TAMPERED WITH TO CLUDGE THE SCRIPTURE TO BETTER FIT ONE OR ANOTHER THEOLOGICAL VIEW.
     KJV IS SEEN AS A TOUCHSTONE THAT'S MORE OR LESS UNIVERSAL, AND AS A KIND OF STAB AGAINST MODERNISM
     OWNIN THE LIBS FOR CENTURIES NOW
     BECAUSE OF THAT AUTHORITY TONS OF KJVISMS HAVE PERMEATED THE COMMON LEXICON: APPLES OF YOUR EYES AND SKIN OF YOUR TEETH
     SO IT'S A FOUNDATIONAL TEXT FOR THE LANGUAGE
     
     YOU CAN GET WHAT YOU NEED (AS MUCH AS AN ETHIOPIAN EUNUCH CAN) OUT OF JUST ABOUT ANY COMMON TRANSLATION
     WHICH THESE DAYS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE ESV WEARING A DIFFERENT NAME
     BUT YOU WON'T GET THE CULTURE
     
     KJV ONLYISM IS ANOTHER WEIRD IDIOSYNCRATIC AMERICAN THING
     SOME TRIBES EVEN BELIEVE IN A SORT OF QURANIC VIEW OF SCRIPTURE WHERE JESUS CHRIST IS THE BOOK MADE FLESH, RATHER THAN THE BOOK BEING WHAT GOD WANTED TO DISCLOSE ABOUT HIMSELF AND HIS CHARACTER
     
     
     AND CHOOSING KING JAMES MEANS WE GET TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT FROM THE SIDELINES WHICH IS FUN
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     nugger@poa.st's status on Wednesday, 29-May-2024 14:32:36 JST nugger

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     @BowsacNoodle @tyler ESV AND ITS ILK AND NEW INTERNATIONAL EVEN MORE SO ARE LIKE THIN GRUEL IN COMPARISON TO THE BEEFY STEAL OF KJV
     ESPECIALLY IF YOU GET YOU A ONE WITH THE LOOONG S LETTERS
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