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   Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾 (liztai@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 11:19:51 JST Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾

   When Iived in Australia, I realised that we Malaysians had access to more advanced tech. Our laptops, smartphones etc were more advanced.
   When I was a journalist who would travel overseas to interview people - Asian journalists always had the slickest voice recorders. We were using MP3 recorders while the Western journos were still using tape.
   I don't think it's because we r smarter; I think we dare to copy & improve while co's in the West are more protective & possessive of their #tech.

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     Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾 (liztai@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 11:23:53 JST Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾

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     And I know this post could rile people up due to the way it's worded but there's limited text space so... Lol. What I am trying to say is I noticed that the business culture in the East and the West is different and as a result drives different outcomes. I heard a historian on a podcast say that the concept of intellectual property is an alien on in the East and that the culture there had always been to improve on inventions. (Ie Copy!) This results in quicker innovations.

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     Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾 (liztai@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 22:07:42 JST Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾

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     • tuban_muzuru

     @tuban_muzuru and thing is the Chinese were the ones who invented the gunpowder, paper and the printing press. 😆 But they have no qualms improving on existing tech either lol

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     tuban_muzuru (tuban_muzuru@ohai.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 22:07:43 JST tuban_muzuru

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     The stupid old saying goes "Americans invent and Chinese steal" drives me crazy.

     The world has three levels: Sellers, Makers and Thinkers. At the bottom, Sellers sell raw logs, Makers turn them into chairs and the Thinkers buy the chairs to sit in.

     Thinkers make money with technology transfer. They depend on Makers to turn their fine ideas into commodities. The Sellers want to build Maker factories.

     I'm from a Thinker culture which used to be a Maker and a Seller before.

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     Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾 (liztai@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 22:08:35 JST Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾

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     • allrite

     @allrite huh? That's a strange attitude to have indeed

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     allrite (allrite@masto.allrite.at)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 22:08:36 JST allrite

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     @liztai What annoyed me was the disdainful attitude that "You are stupid wasting time creating your own thing. You should just copy someone else." Forgetting that someone has to put the time and effort into creating it in the first place.

     It's very disheartening.

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     Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾 (liztai@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 22:29:44 JST Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾

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     • tuban_muzuru

     @tuban_muzuru depends on what you mean by come close. The Chinese were not as interested in waging wars so they never viewed as something they used for pleasure to be turned into weapons, and while the printing press was limited their writing itself has preserved knowledge for thousands of years. They also have this pride in written script. Diff priorities, really.

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     tuban_muzuru (tuban_muzuru@ohai.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 22:29:46 JST tuban_muzuru

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     The Chinese did a lot of interesting things. They had gunpowder, but never invented firearms. They had incredibly well-built seagoing vessels and sailed to the Persian Gulf - but that was all shut down. They had the press, but Chinese, with 8000+ characters doesn't work well with moveable type....

     They always seemed to come so close.

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     Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾 (liztai@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 22:34:17 JST Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾

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     • tuban_muzuru

     @tuban_muzuru yea us humans are bad at understanding each other, it seems 😆

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     tuban_muzuru (tuban_muzuru@ohai.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 22:34:19 JST tuban_muzuru

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     All this is true: when the Portuguese sailor washed ashore in Japan, people weren't sure they were even human, they stank so horribly... etc.

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     Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾 (liztai@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 22:41:41 JST Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾

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     @allrite yea that one is outright robbery, not a new iteration

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     allrite (allrite@masto.allrite.at)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 22:41:42 JST allrite

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     @liztai It's certainly not a uniquely Asian thing. In fact, it reminds me of the promoters of generative AI, built on ingesting the works of others.

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     Sean Bala (seanbala@mas.to)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 22:50:36 JST Sean Bala

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     @liztai Interesting point! I also noticed in Asia that some technology was way more advanced. I've thought one thing is price point - many Asian markets (because of cost sensitivity) need to innovate more with less (jugaad). The market is less sclerotic than it is in the West. One of my favorite things in India was that the Supreme Court ruled that textbook copyrights are invalid because students have a right to get information. So you have massive copier stalls outside of big universities.

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     Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾 (liztai@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 22:53:59 JST Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾

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     • Sean Bala

     @seanbala oh maaan I love that law hahaha. I find text books criminally overpriced and pretty darn useless at times 😑