We need to stigmatize centralized people farms like #LemmyWorld, #ShitJustWorks, #Lemmee, etc just like #AOL users were in the 90s. Make it clear that these accidental #Cloudflare supporters are made aware that they lack a nuanced understanding of the #fedi #decentralization concept. If it’s as successful as the AOL stigma was, we can get more people to join the free world.
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hyakinthos (hyakinthos@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 00:50:12 JST hyakinthos
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BeAware :veriweed: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 00:50:08 JST BeAware :veriweed:
@madeindex @hyakinthos mastodon has like 10,000+ instances at any given moment. There's no way to tell which ones use cloudflare or not unless you're going to each individual instance and checking yourself.🤷♂️
Maybe there could be a tool to check such info?🤔
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MadeInDex (madeindex@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 00:50:09 JST MadeInDex
@hyakinthos
Well using and supporting is a difference in my opinion.Instead of being hard on the #users, we should spread awareness on #Cloudflare 😀
Let's just start #boycottcloudflare 👍
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hyakinthos (hyakinthos@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 00:50:10 JST hyakinthos
@madeindex Users of #LemmyWorld, #ShitJustWorks, and #Lemmee do not generally know what Cloudflare is, even though those three sites are inside Cloudflare’s walled garden. Those users are oblivious to the fact that they are supporting a platform that arbitrarily excludes several demographics of people while empowering a US tech giant. So they are accidental supporters.
BTW, mastodon.social used to be a Cloudflare site, but at some point they ditched CF.
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MadeInDex (madeindex@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 00:50:11 JST MadeInDex
@hyakinthos The free world 😂 👍
What do you mean with "accidental #Cloudflare supporters"?
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hyakinthos (hyakinthos@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 01:07:14 JST hyakinthos
@BeAware
They meant to say mastodon.social.I do recall lists of nodes that indicate cloudflare. If I were looking for a node, I would look on the #greenFediverse list. There are 2 of those lists. One of them flags Cloudflare sites because CF is also bad for environment. So that gives an idea.
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BeAware :veriweed: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 01:12:45 JST BeAware :veriweed:
@hyakinthos @madeindex well yeah, but .social is FAR from the only one with cloudflare. Anyone can use it. That was my point.
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hyakinthos (hyakinthos@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 01:27:32 JST hyakinthos
Some Cloudflare Mastodon stats are kept here:
That page even tracks on a per user basis who shares the most Cloudflare links.
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C.W. Smith (cwsmith@social.mechanizedarmadillo.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-May-2024 01:27:53 JST C.W. Smith
I am on #Cloudflare at the moment.
What I need is a good alternative to it's services or a good reason why I don't need them at all. I use Linode/Akamai for my VPS service.
I do agree about the issue with the big boys, but that's gonna be an issue with users understanding of what everything is. It's still difficult to get people to understand that it's not a difference like it is between Meta or X.
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