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   Waldo Jaquith (waldoj@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 12:27:41 JST Waldo Jaquith

   Heat pumps and induction ranges are two strong examples of products that are better environmentally *and* better products than their gas/oil competitors, for almost everybody. (EVs will get there, but they’re not there yet.)

   Because carbon emissions are free, it’s important that low-emission new products be clearly better than the polluting status quo. It’s a high bar, it’s not fair, but I’m glad we have heat pumps and induction ranges as a model.

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     Waldo Jaquith (waldoj@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 12:27:41 JST Waldo Jaquith

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     My mentions are now filling up with people who would like me to know that EVs are better for them. That’s swell. They’re better for me too. But they are not actually better than ICE vehicles for most people, largely due to the challenges of charging if you can’t charge at home.

     We EV evangelists do nobody any favors by pretending that they’re almost always better than ICE vehicles for most people. They’re not! They will be soon, as charging infrastructure rapidly improves. But not now.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 12:27:41 JST Rich Felker

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     @waldoj EVs are worse because they're (not necessarily but in practice) IoT spyware devices, way too massive to be safe, and an order of magnitude too expensive.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 12:29:21 JST Rich Felker

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     @puppygirlhornypost @waldoj That's the same thing as the mass problem in some sense. If they were more reasonably designed, inspired by velomobiles, you'd be powering them off beefed up phone charging power banks not literal tons of batteries.

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     Amber (puppygirlhornypost@transfem.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 12:29:22 JST Amber

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     • Rich Felker

     @dalias@hachyderm.io @waldoj@mastodon.social not to mention that they’re a waste of lithium. Most of their worth is the battery pack alone and nothing else. It’s a struggle of energy density. Maybe if we didn’t focus so much on requiring everyone to own a personal vehicle… I mean it used to be that the family only had one car. Modern families pretty much expect everyone to have a car. Two car garage? Yeah that’s only you and your significant other’s car not to mention your kids (if you have any).

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