Cat Hicks
I stumbled across this post while looking for our workbook and omg! What a very thoughtful and understanding summary of our code review anxiety paper, model, and takeaways. I don't know this person to tag them but 👏👏👏
https://ferd.ca/notes/paper-understanding-and-effectively-mitigating-code-review-anxiety.html
Fred Hebert
@RainofTerra @CSLee @grimalkina For me there’s been a gradual but definite shift between a view of engineers as stoic ever-correct beings whose every fiber is derived from pure analysis, towards the systems- and resilience-oriented approaches of well-intentioned beings bound by local rationality who dynamically help each other keep things from tipping over the edge of chaos.
Funnily enough, it feels much better to live within the latter lens.
Cat Hicks
@RainofTerra @mononcqc @CSLee I think there is a need for a lot more work on what staff/principal etc engineers experience rather than just being like "they should know everything" I mean GIVING feedback is also very hard and shouldering so much mentorship responsibility is also something that deserves psychological support
Terra Field
@grimalkina @mononcqc @CSLee yeah I feel like only very recently has there been any real guidance for folks above senior at all and we’re just on the cusp of a broader understanding of the ways it can look like. Sometimes it’s “here is this amazingly detailed technical blog post” but a lot of the time it’s going to be what used to be considered “soft skills” like “here is how I’m learning to use my seniority to be comfortable being vulnerable so I can model it for others” - and yes, the cost that comes with that.
Cat Hicks
@mononcqc @RainofTerra thank you for your patience, my brain is SO not great at remembering names online 😂
This is so lovely and means the world to us. Thank you for bringing your writing, thinking and time to this and being a model for how to open up that convo with teams!
@CSLee will be thrilled. "It's not just you" is really the heart of this whole line of work.
Terra Field
@grimalkina @mononcqc @CSLee I love any opportunity to point out both that:
- Even for staff/principal/etc. engineers this stuff can still feel bad/be complicated, so it’s very ok for more junior folks to feel that way.
- It doesn’t always have to be terrible, we can make it better - with science! 🧪
Fred Hebert
@grimalkina you apparently follow me on here already ;)
I think you may like to hear that I used the paper (shared to me by @RainofTerra) as an inspiration for a discussion session with our on-call engineers titled “Can Stress, Fear, and Anxiety be useful in Ops, and if so, when?”—just hoping to make room for the topic.
We ended up having a few people commenting along the lines of “I’m so glad to hear this isn’t just a ‘me’ problem,” which is great.
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