@disabled all of the results would be published into the public domain with extensive replication instructions. The purpose would be dual, to both try longshot theories, and to do proper debunkings of failed ideas.
@sun@disabled there was a blob around here that was experimenting with some of that. mostly around negentropy and the cold side of the universe. might have been @hazlin
@s8n@sun@disabled somebody did find that one of the engineering models used in a lot exhibits some weird shit under certain conditions but it requires oscillation rates that are somewhat unfeasible to even test it outside of a sim.
@s8n@disabled@sun the negentropics are fascinating because it means we can actually use cold for stuff. if that pans out then the whole universe is just a bouncing ball between hot and cold. wouldn't begin to know how to use cold circuits because that shit acts weird under instruments.
@sun@shitposter.world@disabled@shota.house You'd need some pretty first rate security if you lend any credence to the popular stories about energy weirdos getting quashed by vested interests.
@icedquinn@sun@disabled the tl;dr is that their are a lot of viable versions, that work on completely different paradigms. Many patents have been issued over the last 100 years where some are illustrated. And, Patrick Kelly has the best compendium of these devices. His website has a simplified document that covers many.
The rules for not getting shut down are, stay away from anti-gravity, don't file for a patent, and don't try to build and distribute them at scale.
The mechanical ones are given more leeway than the solid state electrical versions.
And, have fun, you can build a nice over unity joule thief circuit probably within a day.
@hazlin@disabled@sun there might be some valid reason they don't like people building that stuff. i've had thonks about it and from a non lizard man globoshit angle it's probably got some serious ramifications that existential affairs is worried about but refuses to elaborate on.
@sun@s8n@disabled@icedquinn orgonomy? I can confirm that sitting in a box and jacking off does not generate unlimited free energy, otherwise my teenage years would have produced enough electricity to power Las Vegas for a century
the spooky shit in the strandard electrical model happens at extreme oscillation rates. you can't do it by accident per se but it's not actually hard to do.
@sun@disabled@hazlin basically when you connect a voltage source to a dead line there's poynting energy that scatters everywhere until the line saturates and the boundary normalizes.
you have to troll the universe by continously destroying the boundary faster than it normalizes
@noyoushutthefuckupdad@disabled@icedquinn@s8n it might. but yeah the people that have tested oronometric systems thus far didn't care to make good faith attempts at all, just deboonk it as quickly as possible and get their back-pats. Not even saying it works just that every attempt was an ignorant and bad-faith one. It should be possible for proponents to demonstrate it though and thus far I haven't seen it. But I have known extremely smart people that have built a cloudbuster and swear it works.
@icedquinn@sun@disabled Naa, they are just evil. They are already using certain over unity devices in commercial products. Mainly around LEDs and lasers.
They don't want to break the consumer slavery paradigm.
@hazlin@sun@disabled there was some ayy lmao that talked about that stuff is actually dangerous and can fuck up spacetime but just using it to power everyone's house is well within tolerances
@icedquinn@hazlin@disabled incidentally the mechanism for the diesel motor was known by island tribesman near indonesia for probably millennia, they used it to start fires using a woodblock in damp forest.
@icedquinn@hazlin@disabled crank labs' cover is we mass-produce novelty free energy desk executoys that end up actually working with a simple modification that turns up one day on an obscure internet forum
@sun@hazlin@disabled nassim haramin tried that he made some crystal shit that was supposed to be shaped to resonate with the schumann resonance but then got told to cut that shit out so he sold them as necklaces
@sun@icedquinn@disabled At the end of the day, you'll have people that do enough experiments to convince themselves (I am here), people that pursist until that build something that is useful (1 mW to 1W is my best to date), and everyone else that stops at starting with an concept that states, input is 100% of the available energy, and refuses to go farther xD