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   Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 20:26:36 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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   For example, in Poland gas and coal went down from providing 70% of all power generation capacity in 2021 to 52% today:
   https://transparency.entsoe.eu/generation/r2/installedGenerationCapacityAggregation/show?name=&defaultValue=false&viewType=TABLE&areaType=BZN&atch=false&dateTime.dateTime=01.01.2021+00:00%7CUTC%7CYEAR&dateTime.endDateTime=01.01.2025+00:00%7CUTC%7CYEAR&area.values=CTY%7C10YPL-AREA-----S!BZN%7C10YPL-AREA-----S&productionType.values=B01&productionType.values=B02&productionType.values=B03&productionType.values=B04&productionType.values=B05&productionType.values=B06&productionType.values=B07&productionType.values=B08&productionType.values=B09&productionType.values=B10&productionType.values=B11&productionType.values=B12&productionType.values=B13&productionType.values=B14&productionType.values=B20&productionType.values=B15&productionType.values=B16&productionType.values=B17&productionType.values=B18&productionType.values=B19

   Which is great, but… in absolute terms, the generation capacity of these coal and gas plants actually slightly increased, from 31.3GW to 31.6GW.

   👉 So we're pumping *more* CO2 into the air, even though the share of coal and gas power went down 18%.

   That's what I'm talking about. That's not going to allow us to avoid the climate catastrophe.

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 20:26:37 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

     "ChatGPT [prompt] consumes (…) up to 25 times more than a Google search"
     https://www.brusselstimes.com/1042696/chatgpt-consumes-25-times-more-energy-than-google

     > Making sure your electricity comes from wind, solar or nuclear power is a logical first step. Google itself, for example, says it has been running entirely on green electricity since 2015.

     Story misses a crucial point:

     👉 The goal isn't just to add green power. The goal is to emit less CO2!

     New green capacity needs to *replace* old dirty stuff. Not be gobbled up by new data centers for AI.

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 20:26:42 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     Also, when Google says it's been running "entirely on green power", do they *actually* mean that all the power they are using has been physically generated from renewables?

     Or did they just buy some carbon offsets and called it a day? 👀

     Again, what matters is how much CO2 gets *actually* pumped into the air.

     Not what a shady startup somewhere pinky-promised that maybe one day they could remove, or their forest – currently in the form of seedlings – will sequester:
     https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/50689/

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     Philip Mallegol-Hansen (philip@mastodon.mallegolhansen.com)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 20:26:45 JST Philip Mallegol-Hansen

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     @rysiek When I worked at Google in 2018 this question was explicitly asked and answered (at least they had the decency to answer back then) at a meeting I attended: The answer is offset, not literally powered by carbon neutral energy.