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   🆘Bill Cole 🇺🇦 (grumpybozo@toad.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 02:59:48 JST 🆘Bill Cole 🇺🇦

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   • Julie Webgirl - Just Your Luck

   @justyourluck If 20% of the US milk supply has #H5N1, then we've already effectively done the study, because we don't have a human #AvianFlu pandemic. We would, if it were possible for pasteurized milk to be a significant vector.

   Also, we’ve known for decades that pasteurization effectively kills influenza viruses. Pasteurization degrades both the protein capsules protecting viruses and their genetic material. What is in milk after pasteurization are fragments, not whole viruses.

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     Julie Webgirl - Just Your Luck (justyourluck@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 02:59:49 JST Julie Webgirl - Just Your Luck

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     The FDA seemed uncertain on Apr 25, a full 13 days AFTER "(raw)" was added to the CDC 's guidance:

     "Additional testing is required to determine whether intact pathogen is still present and if it remains infectious"

     Ya think??

     Now, whether or not it has since been proven, the fact remains, they didn't yet know for sure and then played it down in the guidelines.

     I find them all less than trustworthy. YMMV

     #H5N1 #AvianFlu #BirdFlu

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     Julie Webgirl - Just Your Luck (justyourluck@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 02:59:51 JST Julie Webgirl - Just Your Luck

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     ...ALL references to "milk" were changed to "(raw) milk), with an additional 9 references to "(raw) milk".

     If milk that is not raw, has not been PROVEN safe, why the change??

     #H5N1 #AvianFlu #BirdFlu

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     Julie Webgirl - Just Your Luck (justyourluck@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 02:59:52 JST Julie Webgirl - Just Your Luck

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     Because on Apr 12, just 10 days after CDC published "Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza A(H5N1) Virus in Animals: Interim Recommendations for Prevention, Monitoring, and Public Health Investigations" that said:

     "...should avoid unprotected direct physical contact or close exposure w/sick or dead birds or other animals, carcasses, feces,

     *milk*

     or litter from sick birds or other animals potentially infected or confirmed to be infected w/ HPAI A(#H5N1) virus."

     ...

     #AvianFlu #BirdFlu

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     Julie Webgirl - Just Your Luck (justyourluck@masto.ai)'s status on Tuesday, 14-May-2024 02:59:53 JST Julie Webgirl - Just Your Luck

     Has it been proven that one cannot get infected with #H5N1 from non raw milk?

     Because last I heard there have been no studies done.

     Or am I wrong?

     Because...

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     #BirdFlu #AvianFlu