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Nice table of #HantaVirus protocols of different countries.
We're around the end of some of those timelines now. It's rather quiet... 🤨
HT: @tobi82
https://english.elpais.com/health/2026-05-12/what-happens-now-to-the-hondius-passengers-from-spains-strict-hospital-isolation-to-home-quarantine-with-walks-in-the-netherlands.html
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@DavidM_yeg @Infoseepage @PapyrusBrigade
Oh I didn't think you were against masking. It did seem like you didn't think aerosol precautions were warranted but you've cleared that up so it's all good 😊
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@DavidM_yeg @Infoseepage @PapyrusBrigade
My thought process:
I'm in the Seattle area, we were kinda patient 0 territory for covid so hyper aware but I didn't see WA mentioned in the initial reports. I figured eventually we'd get someone up from California or Oregon but that would take some days possibly more.
Then reports of 3 people in King county.. 1 was on the ship, 2 were 2 seats away from the wife who do such she was removed from that plane and died when she got to the hospital. And..
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@DavidM_yeg @Infoseepage @PapyrusBrigade
They were not isolating. Welp. If i hadn't seen the report I wouldn't have known.
And I won't know if they end up positive for prob weeks. To many people out could spread to since they may be contagious the few days before symptoms.
I wear a respirator always so that's not an issue for me but everyone I know is now potentially at risk. I'm just so angry about how this was handled. Even if it's nothing. The next one.. we know how they handle things
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@Infoseepage
I don't know how it's laid out or anything but I think the doctor who is quarantined said they were zero pressure rooms.
But once they open the door...🫤
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@Infoseepage
Yeah i have that blueprint map etched in my brain I think lol
Shipping container tiny homes might work. Fenced off so wildlife doesn't wander in and complicate the mix.
I still say they shouldn't have docked and quarantined at sea.
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Blue surgical masks seem to be the standard that the quarantined passengers wear at the Nebraska facility when they open their door to the nurse who is bringing them breakfast.
Cool cool.
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@DavidM_yeg @Infoseepage @PapyrusBrigade
I disagree.
My whole point in all of this is that the aerosol experts wrote an opinion on the BJM about how and why the assumption should be that it is aerosol until proven otherwise.
See this toot:
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Maybe after a complete and thorough forensics is done on it.
Does water destroy it? Like if divers pull up stuff from the ship decades or centuries from now will it still be viable? 🤔 Lol just watched a video where a 1400's ship was found broken loose from the Antarctic ice wall and they're going to check it over for disease before doing anything with it. No clue if it's true or not but it made me think.
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Yes, for Hanta in general but this is specifically the Andes type that has been known for 30 years to spread human to human...
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Now I keep seeing/hearing "close contact" and the "6ft/2m for 15 min" deal and all my brain can see is
"close contact often means exposure to concentrated aerosols from exhaled breath"
from the Opinion piece written by aerosol experts in the British Medical Journal (BMJ)
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When the aerosol experts wrote:
"close contact often means exposure to concentrated aerosols from exhaled breath"
... they don't necessarily mean an infected person breathing ON YOU
We learned from #Covid that:
✓ "aerosols" can stay in the air for up to 90 min or more
✓ infectious particles can remain in the air long after an infected person leaves
✓ "droplets" tend to fall to the ground quickly
✓ 6ft is safety from droplets *not aerosols*
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I'm really curious if "tested negative" means tested negative 3 times, each 48 hours apart... or just the one test?
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Right! We've learned nothing.
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TWO DAYS
Scientists have identified the precise point at which stopping an #H5N1 #pandemic becomes impossible.
When the #BirdFlu virus jumps to sustained human transmission, authorities will have roughly two days to prevent catastrophe, according to a simulation study.
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"Where the wind blew, the #BirdFlu virus followed."
That's what @ProPublica discovered when they analysed the data.
...including the genetics of the #AvianFlu virus, satellite imagery, wind simulations, property records & trade notices.
They consulted with researchers whose peer-reviewed work previously found that the virus can spread on:
✅ floating feathers
✅ particles of dust
While the USDA clings to the idea that it's spread by wild birds & shared equipment...
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...pushing "biosecurity protocols" that do nothing to prevent the airborne spread of #AvianFlu
Their story here by Nat Lash with maps:
https://www.propublica.org/article/bird-flu-airborne-usda-pandemic
and
Nat Lash on TikTok: "The US government is dismissing something that could start a #BirdFlu pandemic
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Bad year for the #Flu
The #H3N2 #SubcladeK has mutations that may evade the immunity that the #FluVaccine gives
🇺🇸 The US has reported the strain in 20 states
🇯🇵 Japan has declared an #InfluenzaEpidemic
🇪🇸 Spain has recommended #Mask mandates
🇬🇧 UK is "facing it's worst winter yet"
🇨🇦 Canada issued a warning about the vaccine mismatch
When you see warnings for people w/ immunity, cardiac, lung, etc. issues, remember if you've ever had #Covid, that's probably you.
#MaskUP & Stay Safe! 😷🫶
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✓ First human case ever
✓ Hospitalized in #Washington State (Grays Harbor County)
✓ Previous human cases of #BirdFlu were #H5N1 (a man who died in Louisiana & teen girl in British Columbia, who survived after prolonged battle)
✓ Infected person has mixed backyard flock of poultry that had exposure to wild birds
https://doh.wa.gov/newsroom/h5n5-avian-influenza-confirmed-grays-harbor-county-resident
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I'm not sure that really answered my question.
Specifically asking about asymptomatic chicken.
Never mind my yard. Removing that from the OP.
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