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   goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 20:37:17 JST goatsarah

   IMPORTANT - PLEASE SHARE

   The linked document is being circulated amongst NHS service providers for young trans people. It advises cessation of ALL medical intervention for transition but goes further. It suggests that if the patient or parents continue to access trans healthcare outside their system, they should be reported to social services with the implicit threat that the children will be taken from their parents.

   IF YOU ARE A YOUNG TRANS PERSON OR A PARENT OF ONE, IT IS LIKELY UNSAFE TO ENGAGE WITH NHS MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

   docs.google.com/document/d/1JS…

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 23:10:25 JST goatsarah

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     That says exactly the same fucking thing. They’re just using euphemisms.

     You’re either operating in “naive useful idiot” mode here, or you’re being a deliberate apologist. Don’t care which. plonk

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     Jaruzel (jaruzel@bitbang.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 23:10:28 JST Jaruzel

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     @goatsarah

     Ok... I'll bite. (I tried not to... honest).

     THIS is the clause (picture). It's very different from your words that say:

     'the patient or parents continue to access trans healthcare outside their system, they should be reported to social services'

     Who's warping things now?

     Make your point, sure. But at least try to make it accurately.

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     Cat Vincent (useless eater) (catvincent@masto.deoan.org)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 07:14:22 JST Cat Vincent (useless eater)

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     @goatsarah Thank you for sharing this: passing on to all my genderqueer friends.

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     Jamie (jamier@toot.wales)'s status on Friday, 03-May-2024 07:20:31 JST Jamie

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     @goatsarah my daughter was around 13 when she first opened up about being trans, when she was 16/17 we started looking at the options, and camhs was the first stop after being referred.

     They were helpful and pleasant, but ultimately, pretty F’ing useless. We went private and while it’s still been a ‘journey’, things are good and she’s happy. Fuck transphobes, and shitty shit like this. My daughter is my priority, her happiness is paramount and NO ONE will change that.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 04-May-2024 21:44:04 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Jamie

     @JamieR @goatsarah 💕

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     Rachel Greenham (strangenoises@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 04-May-2024 21:45:08 JST Rachel Greenham

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     • Charlie Stross

     @goatsarah @cstross this country is basically becoming as bad as the reddest of red states in the US on this issue. And Labour aren't going to do anything. And Scotland isn't going to be a refuge.

     Being older it hasn't affected me directly yet, but it's still making me increasingly anxious and depressed. for one thing, i'm sure they’ll get around to us that transitioned years ago. and for another, i mean, what a shithole this place is.

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     Professor Stevens (professor_stevens@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Saturday, 04-May-2024 22:06:24 JST Professor Stevens

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     • Jamie

     @JamieR @goatsarah

     I like your priorities.

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 00:05:56 JST goatsarah

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     • Tormod Halvorsen
     @airwhale It’s entirely political. This is part of a phenomenon that I have seen called, “policy-based evidence making”
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     Tormod Halvorsen (airwhale@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 00:05:57 JST Tormod Halvorsen

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     @goatsarah

     This is just terrible.

     I am no expert, but surely there must be plenty of studies with positive results? Claiming “very little is known” just doesn’t make sense.

     Suspecting much of this is purely political, not medical.

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 04:00:10 JST goatsarah

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     • Tormod Halvorsen

     @airwhale You may well say that, and i wouldn’t argue.

     Sadly, the health system in the UK is institutionally transphobic, and always has been.

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     Tormod Halvorsen (airwhale@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 04:00:11 JST Tormod Halvorsen

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     @goatsarah

     Seems to me that MDs should stand up to MPs, but here we are. They took an oath, after all...