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Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:58:20 JST Pawlicker Most normal nixos user - ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this.
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 02:58:19 JST djsumdog What's the pawlicker take on the Nix shenanigans? This seems like it would be a good post for your pleromanonx86 blog. -
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 03:13:51 JST djsumdog I've never used NixOS, but Nix as a package manager is honestly pretty amazing. Like imagine not updating individual packages, but the entire damn package tree at once. Imagine a single hash giving you the entire state of an apt or yum repo at a given point in time. Imagine not having all your packages kludged together into /usr/bin, /usr/share/, /usr/include, etc. Each one having its own /nix/store/<package>-<unique hash>
I use it right now for nix-shell and to build nix containers. The trouble is the documentation is garbage and the nix expression language is dogshit. But conceptually, it solves SO MANY PROBLEMS with Linux package state.
I know little about the current drama. It seems like the Nix community doesn't understand things cost money. They don't want a defense contractor sponsorship for an event, but probably wouldn't care if an abortion clinic sponsored an event ... like, zero self-awareness. -
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iska@catposter.club's status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 03:13:55 JST iska @djsumdog@djsumdog.com this is really just what happens with shilled out meme distros
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 03:31:37 JST djsumdog Yea I skimmed that one earlier this week.
oh I didn't know about the border wall thing ... well that's ultimate peak autistic political retardation right there.
I'm not entirely behind the "strings attached" by donation thing. I guess there are ideas and expectations, but at the same time, Intel/IBM and hell even Microsoft make big code contributions to several kernel projects.
Mixing your political beliefs with what your want to support in the FOSS world should be shamed as being morally void. Who cares if the person who contributes to your project likes killing babies, is against killing babies, thinks borders mean something, loves Biden, thinks Biden is a potatophile, etc. etc. The only underlying belief should be that of making good open software for all people to use. Code of conducts are open source cancer. Brendan Eich did nothing wrong*!!!!
* At Mozilla. He still created Javascript, which is a sin punishable by the eternal flames of hell. -
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xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 03:31:39 JST xianc78 @djsumdog @iska There is a GitHub repository explaining the drama.
https://github.com/KFearsoff/nix-drama-explained
Also, sponsorships in general seem to be controversial in the FOSS community because unlike regular donations, strings can be attached and they can change the direction of the project if the project is relying on said sponsorships. What makes Anduril unique is that their technology is used to enforce the US-Mexico border, so naturally you are going to have some open-borders leftists screeching about it.
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 22:49:46 JST djsumdog I still use Void as the distro on my work laptop, my Raspberry Pis and most of the LXC containers I run in Proxmox. I remember when the maintainer disappeared, but the rest of the crew was able to either get ownership or move everything to new domains. I still see regular updates coming in. It is a little annoying they won't add things like Librewolf/Brave (no browser forks apparently due to build times), but everything else seems to work well on it. -
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Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 22:49:49 JST Pawlicker @djsumdog I got burnt once by meme distros everyone shilled once already (Void and the falling out between the founder and devs and how it's stagnated) so now I use Ubuntu/similar when I want my shit to work.
I don't really know what happened this time though other than NixOS users were a special kind of annoying.