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   mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 16:03:02 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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   When you can understand why there weren't mass arrests of the proud boys, or mass arrests at Jan 6, but there were mass arrests at BLM protests, and there are mass arrests on college campuses... you'll be one step closer to understanding free speech in America.

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 16:03:03 JST mekka okereke :verified:

     Most BLM protesters were white people advocating for Black civil rights.♥️ All their lives, they thought that they had the 1st amendment right to protest, because they had seen white supremacists march without being beaten by cops. They didn't realize that the right to free speech depends heavily on what you are speaking about, and who you are speaking for.

     Now I'm seeing college professors and students learn the same lesson about what US cops will do to you if you speak up for the wrong thing.

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     Jack O' Lantern (jacklaridian@social.horrorhub.club)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 21:49:58 JST Jack O' Lantern

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     • wasabi brain

     @virtualinanity @mekkaokereke
     No, and when he loses they'll blame the youth.

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     wasabi brain (virtualinanity@toot.community)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 21:49:59 JST wasabi brain

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     @mekkaokereke I’m an incredibly dumb person, so is it smart for Biden admin to cheer on the violent suppression and smearing of young college students as antisemites now and then expect for them to show up in November in states that he won by a few thousand votes?

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     carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 22:42:15 JST carl marks

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     • Dan Neuman

     @dan613 @mekkaokereke no, it's ideological alignment. Remember all the fearmongering about antifa?

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     Dan Neuman (dan613@ottawa.place)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 22:42:16 JST Dan Neuman

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     @mekkaokereke We had an occupation here in Ottawa where the police did nothing. I think it was because they were afraid. They aren't afraid of Black people, Indigenous people, or college students.

     Alignment of values may have played a part, especially in the beginning, but everyone knows right wing extremists are dangerous.

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     carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 22:46:15 JST carl marks

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     • Elizabeth

     @Elizabeth3 holy false equivalence, batman!

     that doesn't qualify as "mass arrests" lol. Plus, it only took, what, two years for this to happen? ADDITIONALLY, of the aforementioned groups, how many of them stormed the US Capitol?

     Please, let's not traffic in fallacies in our haste to prove Mekka wrong

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     Elizabeth (elizabeth3@toot.community)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 22:46:17 JST Elizabeth

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     @mekkaokereke https://www.npr.org/2023/08/31/1196972258/proud-boys-sentence-jan-6-joseph-biggs

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     carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 23:40:32 JST carl marks

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     • Elizabeth

     @Elizabeth3 it's not that hard to tell, actually. But anyway.

     Since you're claiming to not be arguing that Mekka is wrong, in what precise way are those facts relevant?

     To be clear, the reason I ask is because I suspect your motives. Mekka is making an extremely important point in drawing attention to the extreme hypocrisy behind American claims of free speech. It's a very common pattern for white folks to come in to replies of Black folks who are doing that sort of work and try to undermine their argument exactly as you did, by making false equivalences to try and prove them wrong.

     Then when called out for it, as you have just done, they throw up their hands claim that they're "just asking questions" or "inserting relevant facts" or some similar rhetorical cover. In this way, they hide behind their false premise of neutrality and pretend they don't have any bias behind their actions.

     So I'm challenging you like this because I want to hear from you exactly why you felt it important to share that news story, other than to try and disprove the argument and in your words, harsh our "high five".

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     Elizabeth (elizabeth3@toot.community)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 23:40:33 JST Elizabeth

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     • carl marks

     @tillshadeisgone I never said he was wrong. And it is hard to tell how many people on each side were arrested. Just inserting relevant facts. Sorry if it harshed your high five

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     mekka okereke :verified: (mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 26-Apr-2024 23:49:06 JST mekka okereke :verified:

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     • carl marks

     @Elizabeth3 @tillshadeisgone

     No, it's not hard to tell how many people were arrested on Jan 6. There are records. We can just read the indictments.

     6 people were arrested. Six.

     As in, more than 4 times as many people were arrested at Emory yesterday, than were arrested on Jan 6.

     And the Jan 6 folk were committing active, violent, aggressive invasion of a federal building, and attempting insurrection. Not exercising free speech.

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     carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 08:53:14 JST carl marks

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     @Elizabeth3 @mekkaokereke

     2 things. 1, you still aren't disproving Mekka's point. He said there weren't mass arrests at the J6 protests, and there weren't. As noted in the article you just posted.

     2, I notice you replied to this comment but stayed silent when I called out your true motivations, preferring to continue pretending you didn't come here just to prove a Black guy wrong about white supremacy. Typical white racist behavior.

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     Elizabeth (elizabeth3@toot.community)'s status on Saturday, 27-Apr-2024 08:53:16 JST Elizabeth

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     • carl marks

     @mekkaokereke @tillshadeisgone I didn’t make the comparison. Left is treated more harshly than the right. People from Greensboro in the 1980’s could agree https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensboro_massacre . 1003 people were arrested because of January 6. Just because they weren’t proud boys doesn’t mean they weren’t arrested https://www.businessinsider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1