Dan Gillmor
By banning (or forcing sale of) TikTok (which I loathe), Congress -- Democrats as well as Republicans -- and a Democratic president just performed extreme censorship of the Internet.
They claimed it was for your privacy, but that is a flagrant and stupid lie.
They believe you have no privacy rights, and deserve none, and have made that clear again and again.
We need public spaces controlled by the public, not rapacious companies and control-freak lawmakers.
Matt Bell
@dangillmor This is a pretty extreme take.
Joe Ortiz
@mdylanbell @dangillmor That's the cold hard truth weather you agree with Dan or not.
If they just passed a strong privacy law then this wouldn't have happened but naaaaaahhh, we can't have that!
Joe Ortiz
@elsantonegro @dangillmor Yep. This would set a dangerous precedent assuming it holds up in the courts that the US government can ban any non-US service it doesn't like.
El Santo Negro :gitea:
@dangillmor So the president can now ban any app or website based on their judgement? Is this true?
Joe Ortiz
@mdylanbell @dangillmor You can also read what Andi (@mcc) has to say as well as it's very detailed on setting a dangerous precedent. https://mastodon.social/@mcc/112327478848274607
Matt Bell
@joeo10 @dangillmor Yeah. There’s always hard truths in politics, especially for hyperbolic takes.
Joe Ortiz
@elsantonegro @dangillmor Yep, and this gets into some more detail: https://mastodon.social/@mcc/112327478848274607
h/t @mcc
El Santo Negro :gitea:
@joeo10 @dangillmor I shudder to think how a Trump administration would wield this power.
Matt Bell
@joeo10 @dangillmor @mcc I follow and respect mcc, but I generally dislike slippery slope arguments. As she pointed out, there is a short list of specific countries, and Congress has had classified briefings that I wish they would share, but I still think this is a good move. I think Congress should also pass general data privacy laws, but I think both the divestment or ban of TikTok and data privacy laws are required.
Joe Ortiz
@mdylanbell One question for you:
Will you be okay with the US government banning non-US services it doesn't like say Proton or Nextcloud? Because this is what they're likely going to do now and that's a chilling message.
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