I, for most of my life, wanted to maintain some kind the idea that mankind was better than other animals, that the dignity of man was foremost, that man was created in God's image... But maybe the satanists were right: man is nothing more than an animal and sacrificing a human in the name of lolz is no different from sacrificing a cow... So bring on the suicide parties, we all have moderately-priced rosé to drink.
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Zonz (zonz@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 13:42:35 JST Zonz -
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 13:42:35 JST djsumdog I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs, a very endearing sight, I'm sure you'll agree. And even as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged onto a half submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters, who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature's wonders, gentlemen. Mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that is when I first learned about evil. It is built into the very nature of the universe. Every world spins in pain. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior.
-Terry Pratchett
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djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 18-Apr-2024 01:06:46 JST djsumdog What does "win" mean? .. any house keeping leads to authoritarianism.
Every "free" society going forward needs to have the 1/3 to 2/3 split. About 66% of society will always believe what's handed to them by the priests, news, authority, doctors (science-priests). About 1/3 will question most of the things handed to them.
In Stanley Milgram, we like to focus on the 60% that fake-electrocuted the person in the other room. In the actual video of the experiment, you see how nervous and afraid they are .. but they comply anyway.
What's not talked about: when you loose that 2/3 believe in some type of system, the system falls apart. That's usually not a good thing, because warlords and self-interests and authoritarianism fill in the void. You don't know what you'll get. North Korea is really bad. Anything has to be better right? Well if you have total loss in the state, you could actually get worse: starvation and collapse. You're not guaranteed a new good system would arise either. You might just get 4~5 smaller, more authoritarian groups.
A good society tolerates the esoteric opinions of the 1/3 of non-conformers and allows them to spout; giving way to a complex and individual set of beliefs. It's very difficult to achieve. -
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vic (vic@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 18-Apr-2024 01:06:47 JST vic @djsumdog @Zonz A very small part of humanity bucked this trend very recently. It was a small glimmer of hope that maybe we would be the ones to go against entropy and dominate nature (as was our destiny and divine command) and not the other way around.
I still hold hope that we'll win. Just need to do a little housekeeping first.
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