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   Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 09:51:56 JST Woodshop ?
   FRAMING THE PAST AS A MORE TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED SOCIETY
   "THEY MADE BRIDGES THAT LASTED THOUSANDS OF YEARS FROM JUST ROCKS. THEY DIDN'T NEED CRUTCHES LIKE CONCRETE OR STEEL BEAMS."
   "THEY MADE ALL THEIR HOMES FROM RENEWABLE ECO-FRIENDLY MATERIALS LIKE WOOD AND PLASTER INSTEAD OF NEEDING SILLY PETROCHEMICALS LIKE VINYL AND ASPHALT"
   "THEY HAD MEGA-STRUCTURES LIKE THE PYRAMIDS AND THE PARTHENON AND CASTLES WITHOUT NEEDING CRANES OR TRUCKS TO DO THE WORK FOR THEM"
   "THEY HAD ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE IN ALL FIELDS WITHOUT CALCULATORS OR COMPUTERS"
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     @skylar @WoodshopHandman @Dicer @Type_Other Protestant work ethic is the #1 thing separating human beings (protestant northern euro stock) from literal monkeys (meds) or worse (slavs)
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     @poastoak @Dicer @Type_Other @WoodshopHandman the world is not ready for slav work ethic
     
     and northern europe includes the powerful german autism that inspires a man to spend years of his life inventing a machine to do a task for him
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     skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 09:51:51 JST skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:

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     @WoodshopHandman @Dicer @Type_Other i've gotta say i was not expecting "you should enjoy doing chores the manual and tedious way" from anyone but a klaus schwab "you will own nothing and be happy" type.
     protestant work ethic and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
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     @WoodshopHandman @Dicer @Type_Other yeah, but possibly being fun as a sporadic thing when you're planning a campfire or cozymaxxing in front of the fireplace doesn't mean having to split a shitload of it all winter every winter or else your family will freeze was fun
     
     i've also installed heat pumps and serviced natty gas furnaces. that's way more fun.
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     Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 09:51:52 JST Woodshop ?

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     @skylar @Dicer @Type_Other >yeah, but possibly being fun as a sporadic thing when you're planning a campfire or cozymaxxing in front of the fireplace doesn't mean having to split a shitload of it all winter every winter or else your family will freeze was fun
     I'VE DONE EXACTLY THAT
     ACTUALLY I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SPLIT FIREWOOD FOR A CAMPFIRE
     I'VE ONLY DONE IT FOR HEATING THE HOME DURING WINTER
     IT'S STILL VERY FUN
     CHORES DON'T HAVE TO SEEM LIKE A BURDEN
     ENJOY YOUR NERVOUS SYSTEM AND THE TASKS THAT MAKE UP SIMPLY LIVING
     NO SENSE IN DISLIKING LIFE
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     Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 09:51:53 JST Woodshop ?

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     @skylar @Type_Other @Dicer HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY SPLIT FIREWOOD?
     IT IS VERY FUN
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     Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 09:51:54 JST Woodshop ?

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     @Dicer I'M NOT TOO UPSET OVER IT
     IT'S A WHOLE ASS MORAL FRAMEWORK OF DIFFERENCE
     I WOULDN'T EXPECT MOST PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES
     TAKES A LONG TIME TO CHANGE
     ALL WE CAN DO IS TRY TO PASS THE OLD (NEW) IDEALS ONTO THE NEXT GENERATION AND TRUST THE PLAN
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     Blank (type_other@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 09:51:54 JST Blank

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     @WoodshopHandman @Dicer "Advancements" don't even get us leisure. Thanks to electronic tools I'm at least twenty times as productive as someone who had my job a couple decades ago.
     
     Does it mean I only work one twentieth of the time he did? No, we're all just expected to work the same hours and do twenty times as much.
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     @Type_Other @Dicer @WoodshopHandman but they do
     sure there's plenty of useless crap to trick gullible retards out of their money, but there's plenty more useful machines that turn time-consuming household chores into easy tasks that take a couple minutes
     
     people around these parts love to romanticize manual labor, but ain't nobody in the 1700s was splitting firewood, fetching water in buckets, sweeping the floor by hand, or washing laundry on a washboard cause it was fun
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     Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 09:51:55 JST Woodshop ?

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     @Dicer I KNOW THAT
     YOU KNOW THAT
     BUT THE FRAMING OF THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM THE WORLD OVER IS THAT WE'RE BETTER BECAUSE PROGRESS
     WE'RE MORE ADVANCED BECAUSE WE HAVE SILLY ELECTRIC TRINKETS AND GADGETS
     EVEN IF NOBODY IS USING THOSE FOR THINGS OF BEAUTIFUL SPLENDOR
     EVEN IF WE HAVE TO RAPE NATURE FOR IT
     EVEN IF WE HAVE NO REAL IDEA HOW TO HANDLE POPULATION GROWTH IN THE FUTURE
     EVEN IF WE STILL HAVE NO GOOD SOLUTION FOR TRASH AND PLASTIC WASTE
     WE'RE MORE ADVANCED BECAUSE WE HAVE NEW THINGS
     SO IT'S A QUESTION OF PERCEPTION, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE
     PERCEPTION BECOMES TRUTH
     REALITY BECOMES FANTASY
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     Big Booty Monster Girls (dicer@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 09:51:55 JST Big Booty Monster Girls

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     Big Booty Monster Girls (dicer@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 09:51:56 JST Big Booty Monster Girls

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     @WoodshopHandman It was tho
     youtube.com/watch?v=x2mLfaozia8
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     @skylar @WoodshopHandman @Dicer @Type_Other servicing a 20 year old heat pump is peak not fun though.
     
     I've split dozens of cords of wood, and it's a lot more fun than dealing with a rust bucket that is sitting at the end of what is supposed to be a sealed system.
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     @skylar @WoodshopHandman @Dicer @Type_Other The thing to note here is that things like power tools are nice, but we aren't using power tools to create houses that are built to last 100 years. We're using the ability to assemble things faster to just build shittier things.
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     Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 18-Apr-2024 22:23:12 JST Woodshop ?

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     @skylar @Dicer @Type_Other A good life is inherently enjoyable. Cope, nerd.
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     @WoodshopHandman @skylar @Dicer @Type_Other Chores and tasks are a part of life. You're either going to do a fetch quest in your kitchen or in a video game.
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     @WoodshopHandman @Dicer @Type_Other i will pray that one day autism can be cured and you will learn that fun things are fun but unfun things aren't
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     @WoodshopHandman @Dicer @Type_Other i still can't tell if this is some weird trad LARPing cope where you're trying to gaslight yourself or if you are legitimately autistic enough to ~enjoy~ sweeping a fucking floor
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     Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 18-Apr-2024 22:23:14 JST Woodshop ?

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     @skylar @Dicer @Type_Other I'm sorry you find yourself incapable of enjoying the simple pleasures in life. I will pray for you.
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     Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 18-Apr-2024 22:23:15 JST Woodshop ?

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     @skylar @Type_Other @Dicer "I can't enjoy sweeping my kitchen floor or doing laundry because the empire is collapsing and I'm not grifting anyone out of money by doing so"
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     Blank (type_other@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 18-Apr-2024 22:23:16 JST Blank

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     @skylar @WoodshopHandman @Dicer I don't think anyone's encouraging "working for money" for its own sake, but encouraging activities that provide fulfilment.
     
     Lots of modern jobs are make-work that only exist because of one another. Coke only advertises because Pepsi does, and both move in a multimillion dollar arms race that leaves them back where they started had neither done anything.
     
     Office work is considered so soul-sucking because people kind of know they're stuck in such red queen scenarios, not making any real change or actually producing anything, yet doing so in a stressful environment where they're required to act as though it matters.
     
     Video games give a nice illusion of productivity, because they have the good parts of work without the bad. Minecraft was a good example. Even non-autists went to the trouble of tending fields and making big safe greenhouses and such. Why? Because you don't have anyone who'll get pissed at you for not doing some pointless thing how they want, or for missing a quota by three units, or being five seconds late to a do-nothing meeting, or for not following a regulation you know doesn't matter.
     People are aware of what genuinely fulfilling work free from petty obligations feels like, and they crave it so much they even spend their limited leisure playing make-believe that they're doing it.
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     @Type_Other @Dicer @WoodshopHandman it seems like a kosher right thing to promote endless hard work just for the money.
     
     expecting folks to find fulfillment from their work is a relic of a long ago golden age that's irrelevant at best and actively harmful at worst. we're in the looting phase of the empire, where folks should instead be proud of how much they can grift off the system and what they can loot for themselves and their families. people who didn't get the memo and are still operating in "put in an honest day's work" mode are just setting themselves up for exploitation and pointless stress.
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     @skylar @Dicer @Type_Other It's not tedious to enjoy using your body to do things. Do you get bored of eating? Do you get bored of breathing? Why should other human functions be any different?
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     @WoodshopHandman @Dicer @Type_Other i just don't get you guys. of course i'd get bored of eating if i had to eat the same thing day after day.
     it'd be one thing to say folks should cultivate the perseverance to complete a task even when it's tedious and full of manual labor, or that knowing how to do things the manual way is valuable in a world of DEI hires fucking up the infrastructure machines depend on to run.
     
     takes like this are why i really don't have much hope for the right winning in the culture war. "you should ENJOY doing tedious manual labor" fits right in with the goobers yelling that all entertainment/hobbies/art/etc are degenerate (and then wondering why they're completely dominated by the left) or the strivers parroting boomer nonsense like every waking moment of life should be spent WORKING for MONEY.
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     @WoodshopHandman @skylar @Dicer @Type_Other I used to hate them in video games until I realized that's just what life is. Then I stopped playing so many video games, too.
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     @sickburnbro @WoodshopHandman @skylar @Dicer @Type_Other Ironically the vidya hack that makes them so addictive to men is that they parasitize the innate male need for accomplishment and advancement
     
     (And yes, I still love my indie cRPGs)
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     @TrevorGoodchild @WoodshopHandman @skylar @Dicer @Type_Other Mining metal and building things made notch a billionare with that hack.
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     @skylar @Dicer @Type_Other >He still thinks it's a numbers game
     Okay yeah maybe you do have autism
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     @WoodshopHandman @Dicer @Type_Other "the more floors you sweep the better life is" -man high on copium
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     @WoodshopHandman @skylar @Dicer @Type_Other The point Woodshop is making is - we all know that people that do nothing but binge on netflix don't enjoy life.
     
     Purpose is a well verified way to give life meaning. A combination of long and short term goals woven together especially do.
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     @skylar @Dicer @Type_Other @WoodshopHandman What do you do with a dish that goes through a cycle and still doesn't come clean?
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     @sickburnbro @Dicer @Type_Other @WoodshopHandman things being necessary to not live in filth does not make them fun
     nobody has ever moved into a new apartment and felt crushing despair that it has a dishwasher that will deprive them of their true passion in life: washing dishes
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     @idea_enjoyer @Dicer @skylar @TrevorGoodchild @Type_Other @WoodshopHandman having women trying to ruin everything is a little fun sometimes, adds a little challenge to it.
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     Of not having a woman ruining everything you try to do
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     @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro @WoodshopHandman @skylar @Type_Other >This is why I hate video games, they appeal to the male fantasy
     
     Of being rewarded and acknowledged for all your efforts.
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     @skylar @sickburnbro @Type_Other @WoodshopHandman No, you are right.
     Yet my mother is chronically miserable, even when the dishwasher and the washer make her live a lot less labourious.
     Making things easier isn't what makes you happy. You derive enjoyment out of figuring out how to make things easier.
     
     But never have I ever had a day where I did the dishes by hand and cooked myself a meal, where I regretted the task. The feeling of bored before doing the task is all about thinking of the ''bad things'' about it.
     Yet the moment I think of how free my mind will be once it's done and things are set, I am more than eager to do it and to do it well.
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     @Dicer @skylar @Type_Other @WoodshopHandman I think a lot of anger in tasks comes from either only thinking of things as an impediment to what comes next or incorrectly estimating the task.
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     @sickburnbro @WoodshopHandman @skylar @Type_Other Just like if ignorance was truly bliss, then all things would be content.
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     @skylar @Dicer @Type_Other @WoodshopHandman sounds like you don't do any serious cooking. ( mine is already at "commercial level" )
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     @sickburnbro @Dicer @Type_Other @WoodshopHandman that never happens to me, sounds like a skill issue
     
     (fox tip: turn the thermostat on your water heater up)
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     people began to realize this at the start of the industrial age, and it metastasized around 100 years ago. it’s called Alienation. we are alien to ourselves.
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     Those were all types of labor that directly affected their community and environment. More weapons and armor= better defense of the village, more horseshoes= more trade for the community.
     Sitting in a random building far from home, typing numbers into a computer using electricity from a faraway power plant, to earn money to purchase food grown in another country, while sending your children off to be educated and protected by strangers; is as disconnected as humanly possible. We're completely dependent on links in the chain that we have no connection to.
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     @SK1ZM @skylar @Dicer @TrevorGoodchild @Type_Other @WoodshopHandman @sickburnbro While I agree with most points, where does that put fletchers, blacksmiths, stonemasons, and cobblers of the past? At the time those where honorable and high paying jobs; so do you think self employment is a better angle, or working with ones hands? Or (half joke here) do you think implanting an achievement tracker in peoples heads like video games would increase performance/happiness?
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     My friend discovered that games are just simulated conquest and then stopped playing so frequently. All I really do in games is what we should be doing in real life that rewards our daily survival and connects us to the soil. Hunting, farming, crafting, etc. What we do for labor is very disconnected from heating our homes and gathering food.
     As Aryans, we do have a sense of accomplishment from labor and activities that directly benefit your home or family is much more rewarding than clocking in and out from a high paying job. Good luck finding it, but one of Hitler's earliest speeches entitled "Why I am an antisemite"; goes into great detail of the Aryan spirit of labor versus the jewish abhorrence of it. 🧐
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     @Dicer @sickburnbro @WoodshopHandman @skylar @Type_Other And acquiring property, and fighting and dying in a meaningful cause
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     @SK1ZM @jdslyd @skylar @Dicer @TrevorGoodchild @WoodshopHandman @sickburnbro I'm not even sure it's about alienation. It's probably not that jobs just "feel like" they do nothing, but they literally do nothing.
     
     Skylar can joke about enjoying chores, but we aren't sweeppilled broommaxers who just feel bad when Roombas take a task away. We aren't really frustrated microwaves replaced wood stoves.
     
     The lamentable thing here is as we improved tech, we didn't replace productive tasks with other productive ones. We instead replaced them with bogus activities that literally don't produce value at all.
     
     It may seem wild that we're paying people to do things that hinder society rather than improve it, but look around and there's no shortage of such fake jobs.
     
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     Deep down, the people doing them know they're pointless. They're aware they're a burden to the world, and that guilt eventually becomes depression.
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     @Type_Other @SK1ZM @jdslyd @skylar @Dicer @TrevorGoodchild @WoodshopHandman Yes. And it's not just we love sweeping, it's that it's been replaced with roombas which don't do a great job, get in the way, quickly build up dust inside *THEM* that makes them function poorly, knock things around so you have to "roomba proof" your house.
     
     It's a ton of crappy tech where we've been accumulating down sides for 100 years.