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   Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 00:52:24 JST Fish of Rage

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   @mia @shibao this is primarily what I was thinking of, you can do the backend in whatever you want and aren't forced to use javascript
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 01:03:57 JST Fish of Rage

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     @pro @shibao @mia simply do backend but not kubernetes
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     Account: Computers (pro@mu.zaitcev.nu)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 01:03:59 JST Account: Computers

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     @sun @shibao @mia Still, I'm watching a k8s demo right now and it's absolutely horrifying, a sea of YAML that a guy is deftly navigating to change one variable and "editing this causes a restart" and magic happens, now your whole cloud is upgraded from OSP 16.2 to OSP 18.01. Meanwhile someone did something like that by accident, IP renumbering happened, and then DHT cannot find any data, users are unhappy. They call our 1st layer support, they call 2nd and the guys mostly put out all the fires, get all the workloads restarted, but data is still not there. Eventually someone pinged me, we found that someone did everything but forgot to actually write out the rings, so everything looked good in builder, but services uses old IPs that they consumed from old compressed rings. The k8s only makes it even more opaque and impossible to fix, even find what's wrong. I hear people say I'd rather support JS in IE6, or program Android, or all sorts of grass is greener stuff.
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     Account: Computers (pro@mu.zaitcev.nu)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Apr-2024 01:04:57 JST Account: Computers

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     @sun @mia @shibao Meanwhile the management says that complexity and enormous YAMLs are not a big deal, we'll have AI write all the scripts and manage all the pods very soon.
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