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   Branman65? (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 20:30:54 JST Branman65?
   I have decided to get into star wars.
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     Branman65? (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 20:30:47 JST Branman65?

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     @lichelordgodfrey @flux_the_cat @Zettour also when I watched empire strikes back last night I wanted luke to stab yoda with his lightsaber and join the dark side aka the based side
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     @branman65 @flux_the_cat @Zettour If you really start delving into Star Wars, you'll quickly find that both "light" and "dark" are just two extremes and self-annihilate each other. This wasn't intentional and wasn't fleshed out much by Lucas originally.

     "Light" side characters are altruistic and self-sacrificing to the point of their own destruction.

     "Dark" side characters are passionate, jealous, and can't tolerate being under someone else's rule for long without trying to usurp them, also unto their own destruction.

     "Grey" jedi are moral cowards afraid to pick a side at best; vaguely good guys at worst and not really "grey" just more willing to break the law to do some good.

     There is no "based" side in those parameters, though there are Expanded Universe books where it is revealed that the majority of the Galactic Empire enjoys peace and prosperity, even the non-humans, as the empire routs out and destroys pirates and brigands constantly. That the "Rebel Alliance" is led by some ex-nobles looking to get their fortunes back and to restore a republic that was dying to infighting in the first place, even before Palpatine.

     I always liked playing as the Empire factions in games that let you do it. I was looking forward to a sequel to "Republic Commando" where it's "Imperial Commando", but I know better now that it would probably just have them defect to the rebels eventually anyway, even if Disney had never bought Star Wars. Which would be lame.

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     @lichelordgodfrey @flux_the_cat @Zettour >lucas is better at worldbuilding than directing
     that makes a whole lot of sense
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     @branman65 @flux_the_cat @Zettour watch most of the scenes in the original & prequel trilogy for stuff in the background. there are so many scenes that video games/literature/comics were built out of, or from one-off comments by characters.

     "Many Bothans died to bring us these plans" was just filler originally. There wasn't much of an idea of what a "Bothan" was.

     Expanded Universe made them into dog people and they even waged jihad against an extra-galactic threat. The latter is impressive, because they're all manlets.

     There isn't as much of that in the sequels, and the constant quippy "funny" dialogue is grating. The only thing that comes close to it in annoyance are the combat droids showing emotion and feeling "pain" in episode 2 and 3, but that is definitely just something for kids to laugh at and not something I can be butthurt about.

     As a child I loved the prequels, even with the horrible dialogue. I can't enjoy the dialogue anymore because I grew up, though the fighting scenes are still fun. The only annoying aspect is the perpetual fencing that lightsaber users do, and pretty much never pushing their advantage to just slice a nigga in half.. but again, that's PG/PG-13 rating and it's meant for kids.

     I think the goriest they ever get is Han Solo frozen in carbonite and Jango Fett's head falling out of his helmet. You only see the shadow of the head falling out, though.

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     Branman65? (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 20:30:49 JST Branman65?

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     @flux_the_cat @Zettour star wars was meant to be weird as fuck and the prequels encapsulate that
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     @branman65 @flux_the_cat @Zettour lucas doesn't know how to direct or write; he's always been best at world building.

     if it were not for his ex-wife, and other film directors, the original trilogy would not be as good as it is, minus the silly Ewoks.

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     Branman65? (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 20:30:50 JST Branman65?

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     @flux_the_cat @Zettour the prequels are what Lucas intended
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     flux_the_cat (too cool for soundcloud) (flux_the_cat@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 20:30:50 JST flux_the_cat (too cool for soundcloud)

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     @branman65 @Zettour well, he *says* that, but i doubt his sincerity. if that's true he's basically admitting that he gave the people what they wanted with the first film series by complete accident and then fucked up the prequels out of spite.
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     Branman65? (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 20:30:51 JST Branman65?

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     @Zettour @flux_the_cat the prequels cant be that bad
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     @branman65 @Zettour by all means watch them if you want to. again i feel the need to stress they're not *bad* per se, they just come across like the people who made them had never actually seen the originals. they're perfectly serviceable mid-brow scifi films in their own right but they just don't fit that well in the series in my opinion.
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     Branman65? (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 20:30:52 JST Branman65?

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     @flux_the_cat I know the sequels are aidsville
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     Zettour (zettour@gearlandia.haus)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 20:30:52 JST Zettour

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     @branman65 @flux_the_cat You should watch the originals, play Star wars Battlefront I & II, then call it done.
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     Branman65? (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 20:30:53 JST Branman65?

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     @flux_the_cat why not
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     flux_the_cat (too cool for soundcloud) (flux_the_cat@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 20:30:53 JST flux_the_cat (too cool for soundcloud)

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     @branman65 because it sucks ass for a lot of reasons. the older movies are ok and so was the expanded universe before disney declared it non-canon but the new trilogy and the tv shows are poz city.
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     @flux_the_cat I only plan on watching the originals and the prequels
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     @branman65 pls don't
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     Branman65? (branman65@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 20:31:29 JST Branman65?

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     @lichelordgodfrey @flux_the_cat @Zettour if there was a side that was probably worse I would say the light (gay) side, the gay side is just weird gnosticism
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