mcc
As you may remember from me talking about it once a week, the three things I most want out of a cell phone are
1. RECTANGULAR screen with NO HOLES OR ROUNDED EDGES ON THE DISPLAY CANVAS
2. Big bezel/bevel/whatever it's called so I can hold it without activating the touch screen
3. Headphone jack
I search and search and even for high prices I usually cannot get these things
But the $35 carrier branded temp replacement phone I bought at the Wal-Mart by the airport?
All three
mcc
It may be that after all the many gross indignities I have solemnly endured at the hands of Google, Android 13 is the thing that finally drives me to build my own rom.
The full screen flicker is enough by itself, and on top of that, the thing where it displays a mandatory popup you must swipe to clear every time you copy anything is *really* bad. I thought it was gonna be bad and it really was
pettter
@mcc excuse me the what dialog??
mcc
In other news, it turns out on stock Android now, disabling animations adds an additional, extremely disruptive animation. Everytime you home button it flashes the icon of the app you're leaving huge, blurry and screen size for exactly 1 frame. It's glitchy and photosensitivity-unfriendly
I thought this was an Android 13 thing, but no, appears it's stock Android and Sony had somehow disabled it on my main phone. People have been flagging this issue for two years.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pixel_phones/comments/tkci6q/new_minimize_animation/?rdt=59271
mcc
I like limiting animations, but the reason I HAVE to disable animations is the grotesque, nauseating full screen overscroll animation in Android where everything stretches oddy. So now it's like they give me a Pavlovian punishment for doing that. Periodic bright flashes in my eyes. I'd consider this frustrating but acceptable if this happened because I used the "Developer" reduce animation options, which naturally aren't QAed, but it happens with the builtin accessibility "reduce animation" too!
mcc
Anyway sorry I spend so much of my time on this account complaining about computers, but is just the thing is, there are so many horrible things about them,
mcc
2. In the process of setting up my new phone, I at one point had to answer a nightmare CAPTCHA where the question was "Please select all objects crafted by humans", and then all the options were either fish or clocks, and that was was a fine question, except one of the clocks I was clearly required to select was *clearly* an image generated by "AI", meaning no it was *not* crafted by humans,
mcc
I don't like lying. I really, *really* do not like it when a software program requires me to lie
mcc
It feels like a loyalty ritual
mcc
Meanwhile in dystopia news:
1. In Android 13 they made it even harder to disable Google Assistant. I activated it by accident like 3 times trying to disable. The first thing I did was uninstall Google Assistant, but this turns out not to disable Google Assistant instead it shuts you out from disabling Google Assistant. That is, to disable Google Assistant you must first install Google Assistant. Then you have to be careful not to tap it— that activates it— you MUST long-press and tap "Settings"
pettter
@mcc ah yeah that one, I tend to just click somewhere to get rid of it, which works for me, but it's absolutely very annoying
mcc
@pettter it's not really a dialog but every time you copy something in Android 13 this bubble appears in the bottom left corner and you MUST swipe to make it go away or it covers whatever you were doing
Joe Ortiz
@mcc You don't have to be sorry.
I have those same copy clipboard issues on my Pixel 8 Pro and it's a downgrade UX wise. At the same time, they're the only good phones we got and the only one that's easily rootable as well since the North American market is a very lonely place outside of the Apple monopoly.
I know you have a Sony phone if I remember but even they're scarce now a days here.
aerique
@mcc @jbo I was disappoint when we couldn't put widgets on the lock screen anymore. I like having my calendar in an unavoidable place so I do not forget things.
(Yes, I know about mods and widgets on the homescreen. #SailfishOS also fixes this for me.)
James Broadhead
@mcc I'm really worried that Android is getting worse and worse
mcc
@jbo ever since the update where they made the notifications display taller than the status bar I have liked each version less than the one before it
mcc
@Snoeksen in fact my main phone is an Xperia. But to my extreme frustration, the screen is not rectangular. It's merely *almost rectangular*. I paid a lot (and went to a lot of trouble— I had to get it special shipped from the USA) believing I was getting a rectangular screen for the money but instead I got a phone which merely had *curved edges too slight to be visible in online product photos*. Better than big curves. But not worth what I paid for it.
Snoeksen
@mcc Though the bezel is not that big, Sony Xperia phones are pretty close. Don't know if they are sold everywhere though...
bri
@mcc very extremely happy to hear someone else express this specific frustration. hard to get people to understand just how wrong it feels to be forced to lie like this
gadgetoid
@mcc I don’t know why but “fish or clocks” sent me 🤣
But wait what a CAPTCHA to set up a phone? Click farm fallout?
clacke
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@mcc A COMPUTER CANNOT BE CHARGED WITH PERJURY
THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER FORCE A PERSON TO PERJURE THEMSELVES
Alexa Sato
@mcc I got lost in this convo honestly. Minus the headphone jack, I would just get a Google Pixel (I typically find them $325ish new) and install something like GrapheneOS.
Get rid of all the bloat. Its super fast, snappy as any other modern phone. Top of the line camera. Check out MKBHD videos. Pixel always wins in blind tests.
If you want a removable battery and headphone jack , last one is LG V20 I think. I had one before Pixel but too slow and laggy for me now.
mcc
@Elextra I don't want a phone with curved edges or holes on the screen. As far as I've seen this excludes all Pixels. This is more important to me than almost anything else.
If I install Graphene can I still install Google Play apps?
Martin Owens :inkscape:
My Samsung galaxy S5 has all of those. It's a 10yo phone, but solid and upgraded with lineageOS so is actually quite modern.
But yes android is getting worse over time.
mcc
@doctormo at&t now only allows phones newer than a certain age on their network. I had to drop my beloved Xperia X Compact. :(
clacke
@mcc @doctormo I want the X10 Mini Pro format to make a comeback, but it never will. People like their plain glass slates.
I miss my tactile QWERTY! 😔
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