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   Matthew Miller (mattdm@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 06:10:40 JST Matthew Miller

   Gitlab's source-available proprietary model for "open core" is _worse_ than keeping that code secret, because it serves to poison community implementation of similar features.

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 06:10:44 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     @mattdm Why I am on #codeberg, powered by #forgejo, reason #629

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 16:23:15 JST clacke

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     • Mattias Bengtsson

     @mattiasb @mattdm GitLab has long or always been Open Core with a GitLab CE and a GitLab EE.

     The CE is MIT/Expat licensed, but the main repo where development happens includes the EE folder, which is source-available under the GitLab EE License.

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     Mattias Bengtsson (mattiasb@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 16:23:16 JST Mattias Bengtsson

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     @mattdm Did they change license?

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     Michael McCune (elmiko@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 16:23:19 JST Michael McCune

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     • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

     @jwildeboer @mattdm i've been very impressed with forgejo, been running it locally at home.

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     Matthew Miller (mattdm@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 16:23:23 JST Matthew Miller

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     • Gordon Messmer

     @gordonmessmer

     Too far outside of RH core competencies to be successful, I think. But, we should have spun it off into its own company ten years ago.

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     Gordon Messmer (gordonmessmer@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 16:23:24 JST Gordon Messmer

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     @mattdm I feel like I don't often see Fedora folk criticize GitLab, but yeah... I agree. I am quite sad that Red Hat doesn't see more value in developing and offering Pagure to customers for private, on-site Git management.

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     Matthew Miller (mattdm@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 16:23:28 JST Matthew Miller

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     • Gordon Messmer

     @gordonmessmer Anyway, as far as open core companies go, Gitlab is probably the gold standard. https://handbook.gitlab.com/handbook/company/stewardship/ is pretty solid, really.

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     John Wyatt 🐧 (sageofredondo@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 16:25:35 JST John Wyatt 🐧

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     • Mattias Bengtsson

     @mattiasb @mattdm yeah, didn't the ceo say you can move over any proprietary to open source? Did that change?

     That is why Fedora was open to using GitLab.

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     Björn (thaodan@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 16:25:35 JST Björn

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     • John Wyatt 🐧
     • Mattias Bengtsson

     @sageofredondo @mattiasb @mattdm Where did they do that? Their Gitlab says the license hasn't changed. It's still MIT.

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     Farce Majeure (vathpela@better.boston)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 16:25:39 JST Farce Majeure

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     • Scott Williams 🐧
     • Forgejo
     • Gordon Messmer

     @vwbusguy @gordonmessmer @mattdm @forgejo also they're still the only forge I've seen make statements about xz+OpenSSH, and git forges are really serious ssh users.

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     Scott Williams 🐧 (vwbusguy@mastodon.online)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 16:25:40 JST Scott Williams 🐧

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     • Forgejo
     • Gordon Messmer

     @gordonmessmer @mattdm I would personally have rather picked @forgejo , both ideologically and out of preference, but there are a lot of people in Fedora that like Gitlab.