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   idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 03:50:08 JST idea_enjoyer
   Here's the shitty part
   
   Most American churches would invite him right in with a minimum of fuss. I try to defend Christianity but I sure can't defend the modern church. It's horrible.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 03:50:07 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @idea_enjoyer He needs to go to church. The best outcome is he repents and comes to know Christ and detransitions. He could probably become a good anti troon grifter and maybe make more money on that than he did as a conservative man-in-a-dress.
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     Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 03:51:30 JST Goalkeeper

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     My Grandpa(God rest his soul), left his church the day they implemented fag marriage.

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     Dan_Hulson (dan_hulson@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 03:51:31 JST Dan_Hulson

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     @idea_enjoyer This is why I'm a Christian but no longer go to Church. The Church needs gutting and real Christians being put in charge
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     dictatordave (dictatordave@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 03:51:36 JST dictatordave

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     @idea_enjoyer it is interesting that some troon would think going to a building at a specific time would change them or be 'experiencing christianity'
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 03:52:54 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @dictatordave @idea_enjoyer God will not be mocked. I've seen people go to church begrudgingly or thinking they would mock the whole thing and take away a ton from it. Sometimes it's the spark that they need to change their ways.
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     dictatordave (dictatordave@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 05:44:20 JST dictatordave

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     @s2208 @AngryWraith @idea_enjoyer @BowsacNoodle imo a lot of that is gov coercion about tax exempt status
     but still they should have stood their ground and said no go fuck your faggotry and fuck your gay cia kang nigger
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     Special Guest Star (s2208@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 05:44:21 JST Special Guest Star

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     did the churches paint them like that
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     Special Guest Star (s2208@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 05:44:22 JST Special Guest Star

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     come to Boston. nearly every church has the rainbow flag and BLM on the front
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     AngryWraith (angrywraith@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 05:44:22 JST AngryWraith

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     @s2208 @idea_enjoyer @BowsacNoodle @dictatordave Same thing here. We have fag flag park benches IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH BUILDINGS WHICH ARE OVER 100 YEARS OLD.

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     idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 05:44:23 JST idea_enjoyer

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     • dictatordave
     Maybe you need to attend a larger variety of American churches, you are unaware of their basic uselessness
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 05:52:29 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave >Maybe you need to attend a larger variety of American churches
     I travel and sometimes visit churches in the Midwest or southeast. Fine enough for me, although I stick to Eastern Catholic, Roman Catholic, or Orthodox. There's an hour away from me with a huge rainbow flag on it, which makes me very sad and uneasy.
     
     I have a few younger millennial friends who are pastors in various denominations, and they've all said the same thing: conservative churches are growing, modernist liberal ones are declining. I'm not excited at the thought of an old church shutting its doors, especially when it might turn into a mosque or something incredibly gay, but it is comforting to know that the church is getting "leaner and meaner" with much of the growth in the most traditionalist churches. I expect this to continue as society gets worse.
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     AngryWraith (angrywraith@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 05:52:59 JST AngryWraith

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     @demonofustio @idea_enjoyer @s2208 @BowsacNoodle @dictatordave When I became a Christian God led me to two IRL pastors and 3 on tv pastors. Of all five, only the old kindly black guy from Belize from Wheaton IL on TV didn't turn out trash. The other two tv ones (one being john hagee) turned out corrupt. I had to study under them first, and then God set me loose TO STUDY THEM. I'm glad one's already dead. Just hagee to go.
     the two pastors IRL were incompetent and trash. :puniko_spittake:
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     idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 05:53:00 JST idea_enjoyer

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     I used to attend conservative churches. They are going woke. Can't imagine how bad the other churches are.
     
     Church faith is pointless. Individual faith is all that's left.
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     demonofustio (demonofustio@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 05:53:00 JST demonofustio

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     @idea_enjoyer @s2208 @AngryWraith @BowsacNoodle @dictatordave There is a reason i stopped going to church. The last pastor we had at indialantic baptist church was fucking 14 year old boys in the childrens bathroom. I only goto church when god tells me too. I dont goto congregation. Its just another way to control the mass into becoming kikes. Individual faith is LITERALLY what god asks in first place.
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     AngryWraith (angrywraith@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 05:53:01 JST AngryWraith

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     @s2208 @idea_enjoyer @BowsacNoodle @dictatordave Yep. During the riots one of the churches which is older than even my before last ex gf's sweat sock's, sweat socks, had BLM AND a fag flag in the window of the main entrance. I get these gut feelings from God to sniff random places. Was just there to see it.
     I'm surrounded by NPCs.
     Imma make a spaceballs movie called "NPCs, cash or charge."
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     idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 05:53:01 JST idea_enjoyer

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     Would be interesting to take a couple years and just make a complete survey of the local churches. Investigate. I'll bet there's not one in 50 that is actually on the right.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 06:02:57 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @idea_enjoyer Why is it so unbelievable that someone could repent of their sin of sexual immorality? How many broken people did Jesus personally minister to and yeet demons out of? This isn't something that just fizzled out after a few decades; there have been miracles and real transformative changes in people because of Christ observed countless times. Christ would call these people to repentance today, and many of them would reject Him just as what happened 2,000 years ago. That's to be expected, and Jesus even spoke parables explaining as much. While He while are told not to cast pearls before swine, we're also not supposed to give up on trying before we start. If you think troons are unfixable, pray for their repentance and that God will free them from the snare of sexual deviance and perversion.
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     idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 06:02:58 JST idea_enjoyer

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     X to doubt
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 06:13:09 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @idea_enjoyer Thanks friend, I built it from scripture and by reading the room here. Do you know Saint Mary of Egypt? She was a prostitute who just wanted sex rather than money. She followed a pilgrimage to see the cross and was stopped by an invisible presence that kept her from entering the church. She went and prayed outside the church and repented and wept, and was no longer stopped. She went to live in the desert because she knew she couldn't be around men due to her temptation, and she lived alone for like 30 years until her death. Even if it takes extreme care or serious efforts, if someone wants to change bad enough in a way that pleases God, He will help them find a way.
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     idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 06:13:10 JST idea_enjoyer

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     Nice straw man
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 06:14:59 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @idea_enjoyer I don't think he is. He's a troon grifter. But I wouldn't withhold the gospel from him if given the opportunity to witness to him.
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     idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 06:15:00 JST idea_enjoyer

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     It's not unbelievable that bad people would seek salvation
     
     If you think Blaire White is s good faith actor I can't help you
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 06:32:33 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @idea_enjoyer >pretending like my criticism of the church betrays a lack of faith in God is dishonest on your part.
     I sincerely apologize if my posts came across that way. I regularly see people despair posting or talking about how troons belong in a woodchipper (not accusing you of this, nor am I innocent myself from making jokes), and I guess I assumed you were speaking in that sort of tone rather than criticizing the modern state of the church.
     
     I focus on God rather than the church for two main reasons. First, the church doesn't save by its own power. God saves. The church is for building each other up, helping one another and the poor, fellowship with other believers, and having a community within a community.
     
     The second reason is in a church like mine, this person wouldn't have the opportunity to speak up and be the center of attention. He would in all likelihood be ignored or asked to leave if being disruptive or creepy and trying to get attention. Otherwise he'd be given standard pleasantries if just existing incognito. I don't know how universal that is, and from what I read here it's not common. There are plenty of real churches left though, even if a lot of them are pozzed.
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     idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 06:32:34 JST idea_enjoyer

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     These arguments all carefully ignore the current condition of the church, and instead emphasize the power of God, a point we don't disagree on.
     
     I have no disagreement on the power of God with you. God can save.
     
     You carefully try to minimize the horrible state of the church. I think that's willful blindness, and pretending like my criticism of the church betrays a lack of faith in God is dishonest on your part.
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     idea_enjoyer (idea_enjoyer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 06:50:41 JST idea_enjoyer

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     The op was more about the church than the troon where my comments were concerned
     
     There are in fact not plenty of real churches left.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 06:52:46 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @idea_enjoyer So the distinction wasn't clear to me, because "inviting someone in" is what we should be doing to people who want to hear the gospel and come to know Christ. If you mean [with cameras and a spectacle as a celebrity] that's a different story. Legitimately didn't catch what you meant there.
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     Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 07:03:21 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @King_Noticer @BowsacNoodle @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave Cave church
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     Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 07:03:22 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @BowsacNoodle @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave The sky is falling attitude is odd to me, tbh. Maybe it's my personal experience talking and the fact that where I am there are no shortage traditional leaning churches and even sedevacantists; living in a metro area can have benefits in this regard, and the unspoken tradition of ignoring church authorities when they say stupid shit helps. Maybe the interface of a pastor with his congregation is different than a priest with the rules and regs he follows, idk if it makes a difference.
     But to deny yourself the communion and fellowship isn't good at all. If you truly can't find a "based church" around you, you may want reconsider your base assumptions about what you need in a church, not necessarily one that conforms to your politics; remember, we live in a totalitarian state that has its demonic hands in everything. Just saying no to fag "marriage" and abortion is an act of rebellion against the system's wishes. You're going to church and receiving communion because Christ tells you to, not to affirm your racial or political beliefs.
     If nothing else, Superlutheran's Catacomb Synod may work for you. Something is better than nothing at all; I see people here that say that no church is good enough for them then spout heresy because of it.
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     King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 07:03:22 JST King_Noticer

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     @wgiwf @BowsacNoodle @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave I need to find a gobbo respecting church
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 07:09:28 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @wgiwf @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave >the unspoken tradition of ignoring church authorities when they say stupid shit helps.
     The highlight of the post IMO.
     >Maybe the interface of a pastor with his congregation is different than a priest with the rules and regs he follows, idk if it makes a difference.
     From what I'm told, yes and no. The Pope can and does say stuff that makes all Catholics wish he'd cloister himself for a while and never talk to the press again. The priest has to listen to the bishop, although there's extra stuff for some of them. In Eastern churches, a Parrish priest actually has a decent bit of protection from the bishop trying to meddle in things too much. Heresies and things that will lead people away from Christ are obviously something else entirely. One of the benefits of having many centuries of Church tradition is that we have something akin to common law precedent, and there's no major changes that could get in the way of that which could be decreed by a Bishop.
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     @wgiwf @BowsacNoodle @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave That’s just cool
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     givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 07:18:15 JST givenup

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     @BowsacNoodle @wgiwf @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave i mean my church likes israel tho never really brings them up during services, just int he back there's like 'support israel" shit
     i ignore it, they're even aware that i don't like israel and they ignore that LOL
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 07:18:15 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @givenup @wgiwf @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave Meanwhile I've been in talks with dudes in my men's group who tell me they're struggling because of how much they're starting to hate jews. Is that not normal?
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     @BowsacNoodle @wgiwf @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave red pill rage? yea that's normal, i was so mad when i got red pilled, LIKE that ended about 2 years ago, i'm not sure if that's waht you meant tho.
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     @givenup @wgiwf @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave Ya basically. I went through it too. Thank heavens I was old enough to only sperg to a few people I could trust.
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     givenup (givenup@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 07:23:50 JST givenup

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     @BowsacNoodle @wgiwf @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave i only sperged on poast tbh
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 07:23:50 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @givenup @wgiwf @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave I sperged to a few IRL friends and found out one has klansmen in his family tree and doesn't care for long nosed tribe one bit.
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     Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 08:08:18 JST Omega Variant

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     That's a really pretty church
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     Never had to deal with that level of anger towards jews because I knew they weren't all trying to subvert, some were just normal people trying to make a living, just average sinners like me.
     
     Have had to deal with that level of anger towards clearly dishonest religious leaders though. It's not been good. I'm a Christian in spite of religious leaders, not because of them.
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     Will2Power (will2power@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 08:09:34 JST Will2Power

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     @BowsacNoodle @givenup @wgiwf @idea_enjoyer @dictatordave I only sperged to like two people and then kept my mouth shut until I found other people IRL.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 08:11:47 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @idea_enjoyer @Will2Power @dictatordave @givenup @wgiwf >some were just normal people trying to make a living, just average sinners like me.
     Yup. It's the power structure being "jewish" that has to go. It's so contradictory to normal reality and Christianity that it's hard to stomach, and that's by design.