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   Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: (onepict@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 19:57:49 JST Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

   For those who think we need an org to like merely give mental health support and when burn out happens to not give them any money at all. Just so long as the project is maintained.

   We live in a capitalistic society that does not value everyone being paid something even if they aren't contributing right now.

   Here's a thread on what one maintainer would have liked.

   https://cloudisland.nz/@ehashman/112181868961681879

   Again the answer is Universal Basic Income. Not yet another "support org".

   Oh and ban billionaires.

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 19:57:45 JST Jay Baker

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     @onepict Having posted an article where the author proposed support organisations, I think these are absolutely superb points!

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     Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: (onepict@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 19:57:46 JST Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

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     If you're worried about the idea of someone just demanding money without contributing at all and like grifting.

     We have those in society. Billionaires.

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 04:47:02 JST Jay Baker

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     @onepict Wow. Excellent ideas!

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     Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: (onepict@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 04:47:03 JST Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

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     • Jay Baker

     @MediaActivist You could have a core set of developers, passionate about public code to help the commons.

     Who could be working from anywhere in the EU for example, including in areas that are facing depopulation as people go where work is in the cities.

     To help to improve connectivity in those areas and contributing to those local economies.

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     Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: (onepict@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 04:47:04 JST Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

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     • Jay Baker

     @MediaActivist Some projects are also being invested in by legislatures to develop new systems , new communications.

     Perhaps continuationous investment in those projects, developers and their support systems would be a better value down the line.

     Rather than hope every project invested in becomes a unicorn business.

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     Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: (onepict@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 04:47:06 JST Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

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     • Jay Baker

     @MediaActivist We're part of the infrastructure now as projects and developers.

     Infrastructure needs to be invested in to face the challenges of our world.

     Imagine what we could do if we had healthcare and a base income. We'd do marvels.

     I don't mind if people just took the money and did nothing either.

     You don't want a disaffected workforce doing the bare minimum. You want people to care.

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     Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: (onepict@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 04:47:07 JST Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

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     • Jay Baker

     @MediaActivist in fact that article is where I read about the org idea.

     It's a nice idea. But where you have small dependencies that don't update often and the developer gets a pittance a stipend no questions asked should be the minimum.

     Plus orgs end up with a huge overhead if you aren't careful. People running the orgs also should be paid a reasonable wage.

     It's why I'm kinda at the UBI, universal healthcare, education and free public transport.