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      A.L. Blacklyn (shadowsminder@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 28-Mar-2024 00:45:25 JST A.L. Blacklyn A.L. Blacklyn
      • Thomas 🔭🕹️

      @thomasfuchs the quote is one of the many arguments for prompt-to-text generators that doesn't make sense to me. How does the prompter know it's a good summary if they don't know how to make summaries?

      Summarizing a story is also one of the most efficient ways for a writer to understand what they wrote. The actual summary doesn't do that as much as the process of condensing passages does. They're missing that process. That brings me back to thinking they don't know if the result is any good.

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      rosalie (rosalie@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 28-Mar-2024 06:45:40 JST rosalie rosalie
      • Thomas 🔭🕹️

      @thomasfuchs

      Generally true except I don't see how it steals other people's code, I suspect its trained on open source repos anyway and doubt it reproduces entire large programs without serious NYT-level prompt engineering

      Also it floods the internet with shit, not the search engines. The search engines (looking at you google) are responsible for promoting this shit in their algorithms

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      rosalie (rosalie@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 28-Mar-2024 07:05:16 JST rosalie rosalie
      • Thomas 🔭🕹️

      @thomasfuchs Fair but I have yet to see reports of AI replicating large chunks of code wholesale

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      A.L. Blacklyn (shadowsminder@mas.to)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 07:38:33 JST A.L. Blacklyn A.L. Blacklyn
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      • Semitones

      @semitones @thomasfuchs

      I'm not familiar enough with Reddit to understand why an automated summary of an article is needed. Whether it's appreciated or not, that sounds by the description like a bad use, with a high risk of contextual collapse that goes uncorrected in discussion.

      As for auto-generated captions, I agree those are better than nothing. I'm not sure, though, that the pre-ChatGPT speech-to-text generators are the same type of automation as "AI". That tech has existed for decades.

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      Semitones (semitones@tiny.tilde.website)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 07:38:35 JST Semitones Semitones
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      • A.L. Blacklyn

      @shadowsminder @thomasfuchs It depends how often you need "good" summaries. The reddit bot that summarized articles in the comments was "good enough" the majority of the time. And people reading the comments liked it better than having no summary at all, which was the alternative.

      To me this is similar to auto generated captions, which are noticeably worse than the summaries. But they're still so much better than no captions at all.

      Humans would do it better, but they weren't doing it.

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      Semitones (semitones@tiny.tilde.website)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 08:01:30 JST Semitones Semitones
      • Thomas 🔭🕹️
      • A.L. Blacklyn

      @thomasfuchs @shadowsminder

      The good quality creator submitted titles were better and IDK why they blocked that.

      There was a lot of trolling in user-submitted comments and I don't miss that at all.

      The auto generated ones get a lot of individual words wrong, but I leave them on because it's still way easier for me to follow 80% accurate captions than a video without. I can tell what word they're getting wrong from the context. YMMV

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