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   ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 19:29:32 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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   • Kyonko802
   • Meemoo
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   If it can't be run in a terminal, it shouldn't run at all.
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     Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 19:29:37 JST Kyonko802

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     • Meemoo
     • SpookerZ
     @Meemoo @Spooke "what do you mean half the country's infrastructure is run by older software? We don't give a fuck update anyways"
     
     Silicon valley is full of people who don't know what a computer is. They're copy pasting code and editing it to suit their needs.
     
     A lot of websites and modern software are running on duct tape.
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     Meemoo (meemoo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 19:29:38 JST Meemoo

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     • SpookerZ
     @Spooke the whole windows 7 situation just proved that you can't airgap old computers anymore.
     
     Steam will just not let you launch your games until you upgrade to a new goy-proved OS
     And Google is on a mission to eliminate any and all old OS from accessing the internet through their monopoly on browsers forcing web developers to abandon old standards which won't let you download old builds of software if you need to.
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     SpookerZ (spooke@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 19:29:39 JST SpookerZ

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     • Meemoo
     @Meemoo I'm at the point where if I care about old software I have an airgapped computer that has all the software I want to run it on while being kept offline and if I want to add additional software it'll be by usb..
     
     The alternative is I'll eventually have to learn how to use proxmox so I can emulate the environment required to run the disc image of the above computer so that I can keep running ye olden software in perpetuity.
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     SpookerZ (spooke@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 19:29:40 JST SpookerZ

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     • Meemoo
     @Meemoo i think it really just depends on the software. If its something that will be connected to the internet it's probably going to be a good idea to keep it updated lest you become part of some botnet.
     
     :clownpiece_glowie: when you think of all those IoT cameras and whatnot that are connected to the internet still running firmware from 2005 being used to ddos websites/services.
     
     Otherwise I think it's fine to not update software if it works it works provided it's not connecting to the internets.
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     Meemoo (meemoo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 19:29:40 JST Meemoo

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     • SpookerZ
     @Spooke I could see some sense in your argument if those security updates didn't always come bundled with issues, annoying bloat, and/or pointless redesigns.
     
     Windows 10 is the same as windows 7 except for the useless bloat and spyware that got bundled in the package.
     
     Hell, I stopped updating my Husky once I found a stable release because each update kept breaking shit. The maintainers have been doing nothing but fixing then reintroducing bugs in an endless cycle.
     
     And don't get me started on social media sites like YouTube or discord continuously redesigning their UI and making it worse and worse for the sake of "modernization" and "progress"
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     Meemoo (meemoo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 19:29:41 JST Meemoo

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     • Meemoo
     the technopoly bit that states optimization, aka updates, has to happen for the sake of "progress" regardless of purpose is something I've been noticing for a very long time now
     
     I hate when companies needlessly update and redesign software just for the sake of it.
     
     it's why I hate updates, and in fact, rarely update my stuff. shit just works as is. updating usually results in features getting removed or the thing breaking. it's why I despise updatefags by extension who insist that you have to ALWAYS keep your software up-to-date because of "security"
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     Meemoo (meemoo@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 15-Mar-2024 19:29:42 JST Meemoo
     a very interesting video that covers a wide range of studies on the subject albeit a little outdated considering the current state of the internet thanks to our AI overlords
     
     https://invidious.varishangout.net/watch?v=BEIZHlfjAT8