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   kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 07:53:32 JST kaia
   in the future we will include sexual things into all search engine queries, so the AI does not execute the search but the legacy engine
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     Taurus :ms_18_plus: (taurus@thicc.horse)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:07:44 JST Taurus :ms_18_plus:

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     @kaia interesting how the modesty culture of US immigrants how shape techbokogy world wide.

     While the US was screaming over adults seeing nipples on TV in germany families went naked to the beach and noone bats an eye.

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     HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:08:02 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴

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     Brilliant 👏

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:10:33 JST kaia

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     @taurus mh is it really immigrant modesty? I thought it was US evangelical Christianity and their cult of chastity and avoiding sex education.
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     Taurus :ms_18_plus: (taurus@thicc.horse)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:10:54 JST Taurus :ms_18_plus:

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     @kaia in other words: sensitivity to nudity / sex / etc is very different in cultures and due to dominance of US tech we have the US puritan sensibilities regarding exported to the whole world.

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     Taurus :ms_18_plus: (taurus@thicc.horse)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:13:11 JST Taurus :ms_18_plus:

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     @kaia as a german this always felt very odd to me.

     Pushing all the oddballs to the american colonies surely backfired in this regard.

     Germany isn't even the most "extreme" example. Some more eastern EU states have full frontal nudity of children in their movies / shows and due to culture they are fine with that. And I fully support them. To me it's the modesty warriors who are unnatural and not the other way around

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     Taurus :ms_18_plus: (taurus@thicc.horse)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:19:35 JST Taurus :ms_18_plus:

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     @kaia my error was mentioning immigration and television in the same toot and thus making it unclear what modesty culture I am referring to. I am referring to christian modesty culture which exists in the US in a much stronger form than in the countries I usually reside in.

     Of course, other religions or cultures also have their own modesty culture and to each their own I guess

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     Taurus :ms_18_plus: (taurus@thicc.horse)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:19:36 JST Taurus :ms_18_plus:

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     @kaia with "immigrants" I meant the non-native people.
     The people which religion was not tolerated in the old world. Who seeked a better life in the new world, the americans.
     Back then religion was more serious and the amish or the puritans or the scientologists would have no way to live their preferred way if living.
     This spirit of seeking religious freedom, tax evasion and evasion from the law lead many people to the land which named itself USA after the independence.

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:21:59 JST kaia

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     @taurus will be interesting to see how it changes with the demographic change toward non-white US majority. most of the immigrants are Catholics presumably, which might make it a bit more lenient.
     
     Catholic girls school taught me the Catholic approach is it's allowed as long as no third party is witnessing it.
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     Taurus :ms_18_plus: (taurus@thicc.horse)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:30:28 JST Taurus :ms_18_plus:

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     @kaia with fascination I am observing christofascists in the US.
     I am specifically not calling them christians. They're christian extremists who teach e. g. no holding hand before marriage, being a mind virgin (not even thinking about anything potentially arousing/sexual), having sex primarily for the sake of many children, being a stay at home mother.

     Horrible advice for our current society.
     They marry at 18 because they crave the feeling of human intimacy such as holding hands, starved before

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     Taurus :ms_18_plus: (taurus@thicc.horse)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:30:30 JST Taurus :ms_18_plus:

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     @kaia what is allowed referring to?
     Being naked?
     Having media with nudity?

     In my limited view, modesty leads to sexualization and fetishization of nudity. Today I saw a skillfully crafted sculpture of a naked man. I'm bi. Was I aroused by the statue? Nah, the context was non-sexual.
     Nudity is not sexual in the opinion of the members of my polycule and me.
     Wanting to be a (mind-)virgin can be very damaging to the mental health.

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:31:35 JST kaia

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     @taurus maybe it's less pathological than the rest of society never marrying, having deranged standards when it comes to partners etc :aurashrug: but I understand your sentiment
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:35:16 JST Sexy Moon

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     @taurus @kaia they re too socially retarded to get married. source: grew up in it
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     Taurus :ms_18_plus: (taurus@thicc.horse)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:37:12 JST Taurus :ms_18_plus:

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     @kaia of course this group is not a monolith and my interaction with them is not very neutral or scientific.

     In fact after the NFT craze stopping (due to their scam being completed and all NFTs valued at basically-nothing now) I needed a new media which brightens my day when I haven't laughted in a while.
     Christofascists provide this laughing at losers for me.
     That's not neutral or scientific way of looking at them.
     Perhaps easier for me because I don't live in the country they are ruining

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     Taurus :ms_18_plus: (taurus@thicc.horse)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:37:14 JST Taurus :ms_18_plus:

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     @kaia i don't want this to be vague.

     In my books I consider the following media to be christofascist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girl_Defined
     Like Andrew Tate they attract the people with a broken self esteem and feed them lies from which they financially gain from.

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     Taurus :ms_18_plus: (taurus@thicc.horse)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 08:39:04 JST Taurus :ms_18_plus:

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     @kaia i don't know how it is in the US but here in germany I would only marry for the tax benefit.
     I have multiple partners of varying gender and I would consider it rude to have a hierarchy like this in my relationships.

     Legally one can only marry one person at the same time in germany but luckiky it doesn't involve the churche at all. It's just signing papers and paying a processing fee to the state.
     It annoys me that being married has a reduced income tax rate than being non-married.

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