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Periodic reminder that atheism makes you gay.
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@Godcast Sounds like there is a problem with child abuse in the lds
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@doctorsex @Godcast More bisexual Protestants though. Curious. That there are there more than 10% total divergence from of any of these groups is evidence of the memetic aspect to all this stuff. 5% I could expect for outliers normal error, 5% for real number.
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>protestants are less gay than catholics
It's official
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@Mance_Majors @Godcast seems probable but another factor to consider is just how pozzed the LDS has become since the 70s. they've become preoccupied with progressive signaling for decades now, likely to try to make up for their longstanding church policies towards blacks.
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@flux_the_cat @Mance_Majors @Godcast overcorrected + high tendency of lapsed LDS to stay nominally in the church for family reasons. They're like Catholics in this regard but worse.
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@BowsacNoodle @doctorsex @Godcast >That there are there more than 10% total divergence from of any of these groups is evidence of the memetic aspect to all this stuff.
no it doesnt, this is just identify which groups have reduced religiousity, and the genetic changes that reduced religiousity also increased incidence of homosexuality and particularly identification as homisexual. theres no reason to assume they were memed into being gay anymore than to assume gays are memed into being more lefthanded
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@gav @doctorsex @Godcast >genetic changes that reduced religiousity also increased incidence of homosexuality and particularly identification as homisexual.
Bullshit. 1/5 zoomers self identify as LGBT. That's memetic propagation if I've ever seen it, and if not, it should be the biggest area getting loads of scientific funding because of what it means. Proclivities may be epigenetic, but nobody is born gay and passing on their gay genes through butt blasting. This is indoctrination, propaganda, grooming, kids going with the crowd to finally get some unearned notoriety and protections, pornography induced gender dysphoria, and maybe environmental effects from xenoestrogens aka microplastics.
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@gav @BowsacNoodle @doctorsex The trouble with information like this is that the survey asks for self identification, not whether someone prefers to participate in homosexual sex. "Gay," "LBGTWTF," etc. to the average young person these days are cultural identifiers, not necessarily statements of sexual preference. Identifying as some variety of sexual deviant confers social status.
Two sides of the same coin are otherwise normal teenagers identifying as "non-binary," and a nigger like Tariq Nasheed who will suck every dick in a room but insist he's not gay. To blacks, "gay" is a cultural identifiers, specifically a White one. It's why the sociological term "men who have sex with men" or "MSM" exists.
Later in the thread you mention you're skeptical that porn can induce homosexuality. There's vanishingly little research into this topic (for obvious reasons), but I can tell you from nearly a decade of ministry work that porn absolutely does warp your sexuality. At the root of just about every person who troons out is a porn addiction and an identification with (and thus a desire to become) the female in porn.
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@Godcast @gav @BowsacNoodle @doctorsex there is a decent amount of research about how porn can affect you.
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@Heidelberg @gav @doctorsex @BowsacNoodle @Godcast the research shows that if you STOP the majority of the ED resolves.
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We put on a marriage seminar at church. This past Sunday I got a definitive answer to something I had long suspected, but didn't want to research. Porn gives men ED.
I remember when viagra first came on the market, they were using old fogeys like Bob Dole to hawk it. Now the ads feature guys that look like they're in their early 30's at the oldest.
The presenter said that men in their 20's are taking ED puke because their bodies are ruined.
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@Godcast @gav @doctorsex >"men who have sex with men" or "MSM" exists.
I love that created a word and it's already an acronym for another thing we don't like (mainstream media).
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@Godcast @doctorsex @BowsacNoodle its a lot to say its at the root i dont see how you could know past that they watched porn first, that would occur first just from availability , also define "porn addict" i get the feeling its beeing used very lately
if you knew that porn was irrelevant to their actual behavior would it change how you deal with them in your ministry work?
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@gav @doctorsex @BowsacNoodle Troons admit openly to the absurd levels of porn they consume. They view it positively, so much like gay men being molested as young boys interpreting being abused as their "sexual awakening," trannies view porn the same way.
Addiction is the state of feeling compelled to perform some biologically unnecessary activity. Generally we think of addicts as something like a heroin junkie who's so desperate for a fix they'll debase themselves. That's the most extreme example, but even something relatively trivial like a coffee habit is an addiction, though obviously far less deleterious to your health and less difficult to quit.
No, we'd still address the troon problem the same way. Exploring root causes is very useful, but not strictly necessary.
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@Godcast @gav @BowsacNoodle @doctorsex indeed. my point was that if you accept that viewing porn can effect your mind, it is a much more logical conclusion that porn of a certain type at least could also make you gay.
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@sickburnbro @gav @BowsacNoodle @doctorsex I meant specifically the links between porn and homosexuality
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@Godcast @gav @BowsacNoodle @doctorsex but it also fits well with the prohibition on sodomy, as I'm sure that certain types of sex acts can do the same thing.
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@sickburnbro @Heidelberg @gav @doctorsex @BowsacNoodle @Godcast The problem is the earlier you start and the more hardcore your exposure, the more damage is done to your limbic tracts as they are still forming. Escalating doses are also required to achieve the same effect, and this can lead to the formation of sexual paraphilias. Same as with any other progressive addiction.
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Anyone who has ever had to deal with a porn addict has experienced this. Explains the rage problems and emotional incontinence coomers have.
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@Vulpes_Quartus @gav @Heidelberg @doctorsex @Godcast @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro It's funny that the question of "how do you define porn addiction" comes up in dismissive way, as if it doesn't exist. Meanwhile the control groups for studying this— men who never have used pornography— is EFFECTIVELY ZERO % OF THE POPULATION. "Gee I wonder if there's damage. Oh well impossible to know lol!"
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@TrevorGoodchild @Vulpes_Quartus @gav @Heidelberg @doctorsex @Godcast @sickburnbro Yeah I can't imagine that ever happening to anyone...
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@Vulpes_Quartus @gav @Heidelberg @doctorsex @BowsacNoodle @Godcast @sickburnbro The thought of a man in his 20s not being able to perform with a naked RL woman due to dopamine pathway burnout is honestly mind-boggling. Sad.
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@gav @Heidelberg @Vulpes_Quartus @doctorsex @Godcast @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast today?
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@BowsacNoodle @Heidelberg @Vulpes_Quartus @doctorsex @Godcast @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro if you dont define what it is you cant measure it you cant test it
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@gav @Heidelberg @Vulpes_Quartus @doctorsex @Godcast @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro It's not in the DSM, so I guess I'll make my own.
>obsessing over any type of porn
>porn to feel better about life
>failing to control your porn usage
>avoiding work or other commitments to use porn
>neglecting bills and expenses and using the money for porn
>Ignoring relationships for porn
>Continuing to use porn when it's not fun
>lying about your porn habit
>feeling guilty after a porn session
>taking bigger and bigger risks with porn
>Use of porn affecting sexual performance
>require increased "kink" or specific appetites due to porn
Find and replace gambling»porn + three I added.
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@BowsacNoodle @Heidelberg @Vulpes_Quartus @doctorsex @Godcast @TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro mildy tired but probably not hungry
do you have a measurable definition for porn addiction or not