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    HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:06:10 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴

    HistoPol - #ClimateCatastrophe #Overshoot #PhantomCarryingCapacity

    (1/n)

    The #AngloSaxon capitalist model ruined earth for humanity and many soecies. #BigOil has been its undertaker, b/c #BogOilKnew.

    If capitalism hadn't made the #GreenRevolution possible, human society would already have reached the #overshoot (1) point at the end of the last century:
    In 1968, the #biologists Paul  and Anne #Ehrlich  wrote the book The #PopulationBomb"...

    (1)
    https://medium.com/@CollapseSurvival/overshoot-why-its-already-too-late-to-save-civilization-e834cb4ec694

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      Overshoot: Why It’s Already Too Late To Save Civilization
      from https://medium.com/@CollapseSurvival
      Overshoot is the reason civilization is going to collapse. Climate change, biodiversity loss, and resource depletion are merely symptoms.
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:08:55 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      #ClimateCatastrophe #Overshoot #PhantomCarryingCapacity

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      "...In an early edition, the preface read:

      “The battle to feed all of #humanity is over. In the 👉1970s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death👈 in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. At this late date nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world death rate.”

      "#Ehrlich was [only] wrong because he didn’t..."

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:09:59 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      #ClimateCatastrophe #Overshoot #PhantomCarryingCapacity

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      "...anticipate the #GreenRevolution, which took off in the 1970s.

      #Farmers began to use new chemical #fertilizers such as #phosphorous and #ammonia (which is derived from #NaturalGas), and #agrochemicals such as #pesticides and #herbicides  [#oil derivatives]). In addition, they began to use new types of #farming equipment that mechanized #cultivation and harvesting.

      But that’s not all. In the past, a #drought...

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:12:57 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      #Overshoot #PhantomCarryingCapacity
      #ClimateCrisis

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      "...meant a much lower #crop yield, but new technologies allowed farmers to #pump water out of deep underground #aquifers.

      Also, scientists developed new high-yield crop varieties that never existed in nature."

      "However, *this increased #CarryingCapacity [of earth] is an illusion.*

      William R. #Catton, author of #Overshoot: The Ecological Basis of Revolutionary Change, called it “phantom carrying capacity.”

      "Our ability to feed..."

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:14:35 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      #ClimateCatastrophe #Overshoot #PhantomCarryingCapacity

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      "...8 billion people is 👉completely dependent on #FossilFuels👈 such as #oil and natural #gas."

      "Without plenty of affordable energy, we cannot continue to grow our population or even maintain it."

      "...all this #GreenEnergy requires another finite resource:

      #RareEarthMetals. The great thing..."

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:18:00 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      #ClimateCatastrophe #Overshoot #PhantomCarryingCapacity

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      "...about #oil is [in contrast] that all of the #energy is already stored inside of it." (1)

      "Is There Enough Metal to Replace #Oil?" asked  #RobertHunziker in 2022.

      "The short answer: No, not even close!" (2)

      And then, there's the food issue:

      "About 👉50% of the world’s #food production depends on #fertilizer👈 that...

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:19:51 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      #ClimateCatastrophe #Overshoot #PhantomCarryingCapacity

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      "...is created this way. There is 👉no substitute.👈 This is why fertilizer prices (and thus, food prices) are getting higher and higher, because #NaturalGas has gotten so expensive..."

      Instead of using natural gas exclusively for fertilizer production, we are just "firing away"

      Humans have essentially painted themselves into a corner." (1)

      Another #overshoot seems hard to avoid.

      This time, the
      #PhantomCarryingCapacity...

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      Snowshadow 🇨🇦 (snowshadow@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:26:25 JST Snowshadow 🇨🇦 Snowshadow 🇨🇦

      @HistoPol good thread.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:28:53 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      • Snowshadow 🇨🇦

      @Snowshadow

      Thanks.

      Need to delete and repost 8 and 9, though, as it wasn't public. 😞

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:29:24 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      #ClimateCatastrophe #Overshoot #PhantomCarryingCapacity

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      ...the #ExtinctionLevelEvent will most likely not be limited to plants and animals...

      (2) https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/23/is-there-enough-metal-to-replace-oil/

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        Is There Enough Metal to Replace Oil?
        from Robert Hunziker
        A key issue for the accomplishment of renewables is power storage because of the impact of wind and solar intermittency, both of which are highly intermittent. Most studies assume gas will be the buffer for intermittency. Other than using fossil fuel such as gas as a buffer, an adequate power storage system to handle intermittency will require 30 times more material than what electric vehicles require with current plans, meaning the scope is much larger than the current paradigm allows.
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      Snowshadow 🇨🇦 (snowshadow@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:29:47 JST Snowshadow 🇨🇦 Snowshadow 🇨🇦
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      @HistoPol That's ok...it takes only a couple of seconds. : )

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:30:01 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      #ClimateCatastrophe #Overshoot #PhantomCarryingCapacity

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      ...That said, there is a lot we could do, apart from #PopulationControl, firstcand foremost, a #SecondGreenRevolution, using a combination of #Agrivoltaics and #WaruWaru:

      https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/109972629386382918

      //

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      Snowshadow 🇨🇦 (snowshadow@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:35:37 JST Snowshadow 🇨🇦 Snowshadow 🇨🇦
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      @HistoPol Interesting thread about raised beds and solar panels etc.

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:39:41 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      • Snowshadow 🇨🇦

      @Snowshadow

      One of my key threads. 😀
      I really believe that this could solve a big part of the #ClimateCrisis, at least in regions with #AtmosphericRiver and #Monsoon conditions.

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      Snowshadow 🇨🇦 (snowshadow@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:45:19 JST Snowshadow 🇨🇦 Snowshadow 🇨🇦
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      @HistoPol It does seem possible.
      Raised beds are a good idea anywhere. When I had a huge vegetable garden I always used raised beds. And when our area had too much rain or not enough my garden never failed unlike my neighbours'. Also, when the beds are wide it utilizes more land which in turn allows for more food to grow.

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 17:54:34 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      • Snowshadow 🇨🇦

      @Snowshadow

      If you go through my thread, you will see that #WaruWaru has been used in the #Andean Highlands fir thousands of years, #Oxfam is promoting projects in #SouthAmerica, and #Agrivoltaics has been around for decades.

      It is all there. It is simply not being used enough.

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      Snowshadow 🇨🇦 (snowshadow@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 18:05:40 JST Snowshadow 🇨🇦 Snowshadow 🇨🇦
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      @HistoPol yes, I saw that. I don't understand why people ignore what has been successful for thousands of years. It is stupid and rather arrogant to assume that only "modern" ideas are useful.
      I think too many people are stubborn/rigid, unable to understand that we need to learn and adapt because to stubbornly cling to methods of farming is the path to our extinction.
      (This also applies to other than farming. Look at our methods of transportation, and even what we do during our daily routine)

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 18:11:25 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      • Snowshadow 🇨🇦

      @Snowshadow

      100%

      However, I can see one big execption: cycling.

      Beijing at the Kasten zurn of the century actually Was a glimpse into the future of many modern cities: an abundance of cyclists.

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      Snowshadow 🇨🇦 (snowshadow@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 18:16:28 JST Snowshadow 🇨🇦 Snowshadow 🇨🇦
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      @HistoPol cycling is a great option, but not for everyone and every circumstance. However, massive public transportation is a good alternative esp. when combined with more access to biking. Single vehicle use needs to end.
      For those who say, "Whatabout my groceries, my home renovation and gardening supplies...how do I get them home?" There are options for that also.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 18:18:15 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      • Snowshadow 🇨🇦

      @Snowshadow

      Solutions for the #ClimateCrisis:

      In fact, I have a rather holistic agenda of how to save the planet for humanity.
      I've made a draft thread of it here in a reply tobsomeone in German:

      https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/111092072963817184

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 18:20:10 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @Snowshadow

      YES to all. 🤗

      I mentioned cycling only as an example of a Renaissance of an old technology.

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      kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Saturday, 04-May-2024 23:14:45 JST kaia kaia
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      @HistoPol
      why is it an Anglo Saxon model? it's a global economic model. that sounds quite racist tbh.
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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 04-May-2024 23:57:45 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      • kaia

      @kaia

      #Capitalism
      (1/n)

      B/C I'd argue that it was chiefly developed in the UK and the US, e.g. #Wiki:

      "Capitalism in its modern form emerged from agrarianism in England, as well as mercantilist practices by European countries between the 16th and 18th centuries. The Industrial Revolution of the 18th century [which started in the UK] established capitalism as a dominant mode of production, characterized by factory work and a complex division of labor...became more regulated...

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 04-May-2024 23:59:45 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @kaia

      #Capitalism

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      ...in the post–World War II period through *Keynesianism* [English], followed by a return of more unregulated capitalism starting in the 1980s through *neoliberalism...
      Scholars tended to associate it with the theories of economists working with the Mont Pelerin Society, including Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman, Ludwig von Mises and James...

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 00:00:39 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @kaia

      #Capitalism

      (3/n)

      ...M. Buchanan, along with politicians and policy-makers such as Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan...[all US/UK]

      "Das Kapital" was written in England (London), too, after Marx was exiled in 1849.

      Another key philosopher, #AdamSmith (Wealth of Nations, "the #InvisibleHand") was a Scot.

      Much of global economic theory is being strongly influenced by US thinktanks like the #FederalistSociety, etc.

      I could have written "Anglo-American," but merely...

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 00:03:04 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      @kaia

      #Capitalism

      (4/4)

      ...referring to one tribe that invaded the British Isles (Angles) as pars pro toto would not improve clarity, I think...Besides, they came from what us now northern Germany. 😉

      //

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      Billy Smith (billysmith@social.coop)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 00:08:29 JST Billy Smith Billy Smith
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      @HistoPol @Snowshadow

      The combination of manufacturable hydrocarbons and cheaper electricity from renewables works well. :D

      Yes, it does require the roll-out of new infrastructures, but that is already in progress. :D

      Though probably not quick enough to avoid the slow mega-deaths via poverty.

      The technology is already here. We just need to implement it equitably. :D

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 00:09:09 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      • Snowshadow 🇨🇦

      @BillySmith

      Absolutely correct.
      Apart from solar and wind, I'm not seeing this happening on the required global scale, though.

      My whole point is that humanity had all the necessary technologies available after the Fraunhofer Institute had invented #Agrivoltaics...in the 1970's.

      @Snowshadow

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 00:09:29 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      • Snowshadow 🇨🇦

      @BillySmith

      Absolutely correct.
      Apart from solar and wind, I'm not seeing this happening on the required global scale, though.

      My whole point is that humanity had all the necessary technologies available after the Fraunhofer Institute had invented #Agrivoltaics...in the 1980's:

      https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/109966823402403119

      @Snowshadow

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      Billy Smith (billysmith@social.coop)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 02:38:51 JST Billy Smith Billy Smith
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      @HistoPol @Snowshadow

      The early Proofs-Of-Concept for hydrocarbon manufacturing in the laboratory took place in the late 1890's/early-1900's, but electricity was more expensive to generate then. :D

      Now... :D

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      bouriquet (bouriquet@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 02:15:54 JST bouriquet bouriquet
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      @HistoPol Basically, nothing we are doing is sustainable for the huge population we have.
      Period.
      Life is going to get worse.
      Got it?

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink

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