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   lina (lina@uwu.social)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 22:41:00 JST lina

   Heyyy, Is here on fedi someone who knows Linux? Mean, not just simple stuff and is able&willing to help me out?
   I would really appreciate it

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 22:41:19 JST kaia

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     @lina you'll get so many responses :HazeSmug:
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 22:43:36 JST SuperDicq

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     @kaia@brotka.st @lina@uwu.social I don't know where you will be able to find people on the fediverse who know something about GNU/Linux. We're all dumb Mac OS users here, these people who know stuff are very rare around here.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 23:26:35 JST SuperDicq

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     @lina@uwu.social @kaia@brotka.st Oh I see the issue, are you using Wayland?

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     lina (lina@uwu.social)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 23:26:37 JST lina

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     @SuperDicq @kaia yes, I know, that's why I'm asking as I didn't get any meaningful responses from people who know these stuff
     It seems like I didn't issues that nobody yet seen

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 23:28:59 JST SuperDicq

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     @lina@uwu.social @kaia@brotka.st Oh it's proprietary Nvidia. Sorry, can't help.

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     lina (lina@uwu.social)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 23:29:01 JST lina

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     @SuperDicq @kaia yes, it's a laptop with Optimus, latest kernel, proprietary Nvidia driver, the display is connected to the iGPU, and doesn't change if I have Nvidia GPU enabled or not, also I been doing GPU passthrough on this

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 23:32:24 JST SuperDicq

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     @lina@uwu.social @kaia@brotka.st Have you considered issues with the hardware, etc?
     
     Like boot up a live environment or try a different OS and see if that changes anything?
     
     Otherwise I would also try backtracking and completely removing Nvidia and trying to run just on the iGPU alone. Then installing Nvidia from there.
     
     Also connecting a second display to your computer to see what that does could help.

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     lina (lina@uwu.social)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 23:32:25 JST lina

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     @SuperDicq @kaia one guy who actually does Linux on Fedora discussion's board responded that I should try to install Nvidia rpmfussion drivers, well I already have those, and it doesn't seem like Nvidia is the one to blame

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 23:49:11 JST SuperDicq

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     @lina@uwu.social @kaia@brotka.st If an older kernel works fine I would just use that instead for now.
     
     Maybe if you want to take the extra time you can figure out what is different about the newer kernel version and submit a bug report.

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     lina (lina@uwu.social)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 23:49:13 JST lina

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     @SuperDicq @kaia well, I know my hardware is working fully, as I go back to older kernels(6.6.8) the display is fine and is working correctly, I gona try live os, as I haven't tried that one yet, ohh yeah I will try the display too, finally some meaningful responses, thanks!

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     lina (lina@uwu.social)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 23:57:51 JST lina

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     @Reiddragon @kaia @SuperDicq nahhh, I don't think it's an Nvidia issue, as it's still present when I turn off the dedicated GPU(this is a laptop with Optimus) and if I connect a second display to the Nvidia GPU then that screen works fine

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     Reid :ablobcatattention: (reiddragon@fedi.reimu.info)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 23:57:53 JST Reid :ablobcatattention:

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     @lina @kaia @SuperDicq ok so Wayland is unrelated then
     
     sounds like a bad display driver, or the driver not playing nicely with the new kernel
     
     Nvidia really hates new kernels sometimes, so best to stick to lts kernels if your distro offers them (anything that (semi-)rolls usually does)
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     Reid :ablobcatattention: (reiddragon@fedi.reimu.info)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 23:57:54 JST Reid :ablobcatattention:

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     @lina @SuperDicq @kaia when does this start? is it random? the moment init logs/plymouth show up? on the login screen? when getting to the desktop?
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     lina (lina@uwu.social)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Mar-2024 23:57:54 JST lina

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     @Reiddragon @kaia @SuperDicq after the grub bootloader starts loading the kernel

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     Reid :ablobcatattention: (reiddragon@fedi.reimu.info)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:12:56 JST Reid :ablobcatattention:

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     @lina @kaia @SuperDicq assuming it uses the AMDGPU driver (too new for radeon)
     
     this is... yeah, you're running as unsupported of a hybrid setup as you can
     
     Nvidia and AMD drivers don't play ball together at all, no incentive from either company to support running alongside each other
     
     which means it could *still* be the Nvidia driver that's fucking shit up
     
     can you stop the Nvidia driver form loading and try it that way? might not fix things but it's worth a try
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     Reid :ablobcatattention: (reiddragon@fedi.reimu.info)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:12:58 JST Reid :ablobcatattention:

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     @lina @kaia @SuperDicq probably an issue with however it does the passtrough
     
     usually the built in screen is hooked up directly to the iGPU, and the dGPU's output is funneled trough that to the internal screen (altho not all laptops do that)
     
     the intel driver could be at fault too (Intel doesn't have the highest quality GPU drivers), altho it's hard to say when I can't poke the machine myself
     
     I'd say stick to an older kernel till this gets fixed
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     lina (lina@uwu.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:12:58 JST lina

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     @Reiddragon @kaia @SuperDicq yess, its connected as you said it, this is an AMD laptop tho, Ryzen chip, not too old and not too new, Ryzen 7 4800hs, thanks for help anyways! I hope someday I will get a kernel that will work with my system:/

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:13:10 JST SuperDicq

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     @lina@uwu.social @kaia@brotka.st There's nothing wrong with using old kernels if it works, unless a newer kernel has a feature that you desperately need.
     
     I am using Linux 5.10 on Debian Oldstable, why fix it if it ain't broke?

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     lina (lina@uwu.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:13:11 JST lina

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     @SuperDicq @kaia well I was using the older kernel for more than a month now, I also set that it will persist 10 past kernels so the system won't gona delete my only working kernel
     I am free this week, so I would like to resolve this, not leave it for future me

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:18:15 JST SuperDicq

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     @lina@uwu.social @kaia@brotka.st 5.10 is an LTS kernel. It will keep getting updated until 2031! Why upgrade any time soon?

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:19:42 JST SuperDicq

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     @lina@uwu.social @kaia@brotka.st Yeah the right thing to do if you have lots of free time would be to investigate the exact differences between the working and non-working kernels and submitting a bug report.
     
     But it is totally understandable to just install a working version and actually use your computer.

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     lina (lina@uwu.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:19:43 JST lina

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     @SuperDicq @kaia okiii you're the second guy who tells me to stick with older kernels, I gona stick with the older ones which work,
     Thanks anyways 🩷🩷🩷

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:24:19 JST SuperDicq

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     • Reid :ablobcatattention:

     @Reiddragon@fedi.reimu.info @lina@uwu.social @kaia@brotka.st Using nvidia has actually become a lot better in the last 10 years but I'm still surprised with how terrible it is.
     
     And yeah just having nvidia alone shouldn't be a problem, but on a machine that also has an iGPU from AMD that you want to use that indeed is like holding up your sign like you said.

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     Reid :ablobcatattention: (reiddragon@fedi.reimu.info)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:24:22 JST Reid :ablobcatattention:

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     @lina @kaia @SuperDicq well, what I can tell you is that I've had no issues on my various machines with pure AMD graphics, and nothing quite like this on my one Intel laptop (did have some performance issues in Vulkan that took some persuading the driver to work properly, also Gamescope never worked well on that laptop until it broke)
     
     generally, AMD graphics are the most reliable on Linux, Intel mostly works as long as you well and truly don't give a shit about games or any other GPU-intensive things, Nvidia is the equivalent of holding a sign that says "I want to have a bad time"
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     lina (lina@uwu.social)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:24:23 JST lina

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     @Reiddragon @kaia @SuperDicq well it's interesting that it all worked fine since I put Linux on it( approaching 4 years)

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:28:41 JST SuperDicq

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     @Reiddragon@fedi.reimu.info @lina@uwu.social @kaia@brotka.st Like 10 years ago I had a Lenovo Y500 laptop that had a nvidia GPU and Intel iGPU.
     
     Not sure how relevant it is today because it is a long time ago, but they just didn't like to play along at all. Ideally you want to use the iGPU when you're not doing graphical intensive stuff to save battery and then switch to nvidia when you need to. (Using software like Bumblebee)
     
     I couldn't get this to work on that laptop whatsoever and eventually I just gave up and just solely used the nvidia card instead. Made the machine run out of battery a bit quicker, but saved me a lot of headache.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:34:56 JST SuperDicq

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     @Reiddragon@fedi.reimu.info @lina@uwu.social @kaia@brotka.st This was around the time from Linus Torvalds' famous "Fuck you" clip towards Nvidia.
     
     The Nvidia drivers were so terrible at this time that it didn't even work at all on a generic kernel. It only worked on kernels with CONFIG_HZ set to 1000 or higher for some mystical reasons.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 00:36:23 JST SuperDicq

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     @Reiddragon@fedi.reimu.info @lina@uwu.social @kaia@brotka.st That's the only time I remember encountering something that didn't "Just work" on the generic Debian kernel.

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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 01:29:33 JST 

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     @lina I think this @torvalds guy knew a thing or two.