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   SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:44 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)
   Why is American Lutheranism so chaotic? Well, because Prussia. This guy, "Frederick the Great," was an enlightenment freemason that passed legislation for the tolerance of jews and catholics in Brandenburg and all Prussia.
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     Wolfgirl in Wheatfield (wgiwf@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:38 JST Wolfgirl in Wheatfield

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     @MeBigbrain @sapphire @SuperLutheran It was screwed from the beginning. You didn't need us to to make things worse.
     
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:38 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Masonic lodges were full of jews, so it's not surprising.
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:39 JST sapphire

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     @SuperLutheran @MeBigbrain beam in thine own eye on a national level
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     Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:39 JST Coon Appreciater

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     @sapphire @SuperLutheran I blame a lot of modern America's problems on the influx of Catholic migrants in the early 20th century. Micks and Wops were the original spics.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:40 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @MeBigbrain I want every faithful European Christian to win control of their churches and establish Christendom again. Until such time, may they do a heckin' nationalism and stay in their homeland to save it.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:41 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     So let's summarize. Why is American Lutheranism so chaotic and crazy? Because one Prussian king was a masonic nutcase and his successor was a far mystic weirdo; this made religion in Prussia a mess, so the third Prussian king tried to fix it by forcing everyone to violate their beliefs to get along. To rebel against that, a philandering bishop headed off to America and after he got fired his young pastor friend Walther helped establish the LCMS. The LCMS became a lightning rod of conversation and controversy, so a bunch of previous and succeeding Lutheran groups ended up making a bigger mess with a bunch of stupid mergers - the last of which was at the behest of former LCMS theologians/professors. So Lutheranism is chaotic here.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:41 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     The nice thing is though, that same chaos and division has protected American Lutherans from the situation European Lutherans have found themselves in. Over in Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, etc., the story is this simple: the state Lutheran Church has cucked but they have all the funding and ecclesiastical power thanks to the power of the sword, so you're hosed and have to travel 80 miles to maaaybe go to a faithful congregation in the middle of nowhere. God made America insane to protect American Lutherans from suffering the same fate.
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     Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:41 JST Coon Appreciater

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     @SuperLutheran Great thread! Hopefully an influx of Europeans with shitty takes won't continue to alter the American landscape for the worse.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:42 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     Stephan being kicked out of Missouri Lutheran churches meant this guy being the first "Official" president of the Missouri Synod, CFW Walther. He was a totally awesome leader who never made mistakes or said anything wrong, so thus was born a lasting peace and harmony among Lutherans and all of the Lutherans in America totally got their crap together. Lol, lmao.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:42 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     There were Lutherans in America before the Prussian Union was established by the dysfunctional royalty in Brandenburg. There was the Pennsylvania Ministerium, the Ohio Synod, the Tennessee Synod, and countless others before we even consider the arrival of the Scandinavian Lutherans. When the LCMS was established in the mid 19th Century, they were caught flat footed as Missouri became the hot iron that threw heat at everything near it. In a sense, many of the crazy mergers and schisms between a lot of these groups was in response to Walther and co., as Missouri had quite the "my way or the highway" attitude.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:42 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     Even with the mergers and schisms and all other sorts of difficulties surrounding defining one's organization as "we're not the lcms people," that didn't stop the lcms from continuing its influence on other Lutheran bodies. During the Seminex debacle, the LCMS kicked out some of their liberal professors, who went on to establish the AELC (Association of Evangelical Lutheran Churches). Those guys promptly pushed for a merger between all the other Lutheran bodies, eventually forming the abomination we all know today as the ELCA.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:43 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     Frederick William II of Prussia was succeeded by the predictably named Frederick William III. His goal was to restore religious order by forcing ecumenism down everyone's throats in what is called the "Prussian Union." That meant forcing Lutherans and calvinists to go to the same church services and to never let pastors say anything that would upset the apple cart...like what the Bible actually teaches
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:43 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     So this guy, Martin Stephan, leads the "Old Lutherans" who kept practicing Lutheranism properly, to America. By the way later on he was accused of a bunch of affairs and was followed by controversy everywhere he went until he died.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:01:44 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     "Frederick the Great" was succeeded by this absolute unit, "Frederick William II," who had a bunch of affairs until he got sad about it and joined the rosicrucians. So then Prussia had a bunch of jews, and papists running around while crazy mystics got into the high court. He also destabilized the region through court intrigue.
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:35:58 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @sapphire @MeBigbrain I'd say not every man is cut out for fighting political battles, doing street work, etc. If anti-White forces attack through a religious angle (as they have to 150 years), then it's good to have people putting in the energy to fighting back on that front. Not every person in this movement has to do the exact same job 🤷♂️
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:35:59 JST sapphire

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     @MeBigbrain @SuperLutheran they definitely won't survive if you waste all your energy fighting over translations instead of fighting for your survival.
     
     I'm sure God will reward you in heaven as you hand the keys to Christianity over to latinos and niggers
     BowserNoodle ☦️ repeated this.
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:00 JST sapphire

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     @MeBigbrain @SuperLutheran are you unable to teach your children the importance of God without a gigachurch behind you? If not, you’re not strong enough to save your race and there’s no point in having this conversation. Keep wasting your energy hating your brothers for translating words differently, you’d be a waste to my race anyway.
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     Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:00 JST Coon Appreciater

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     @sapphire @SuperLutheran >"What's the matter, sweaty, just keep your ideas out of the public space and they'll survive if they're strong." 💅
     
     Tactical lolbertarianism.
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:01 JST sapphire

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     @MeBigbrain @SuperLutheran where did I say that? Point it out to me
     
     This topic, like you, exists on a spectrum.
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     Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:01 JST Coon Appreciater

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     @sapphire @SuperLutheran It's the inevitable outcome of your position. "Not prioritizing" something equates to never addressing it. We're talking about a fight that will take generations. What will the state of American Christianity be if, after already disregarding it for decades (right now) we then go a few more decades of not caring about it?
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:02 JST sapphire

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     @MeBigbrain @SuperLutheran sure if you say so retard, sorry I’m not arguing over filioque or whether priests can marry when there are invaders at my walls. I’m sure you’ll have plenty of time to figure it out after your race is exterminated.
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     Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:02 JST Coon Appreciater

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     @sapphire @SuperLutheran Sure, or we can save White people while letting them all become soulless atheist bugmen. Yay, we won.
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:03 JST sapphire

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     @MeBigbrain @SuperLutheran I’m not ignoring it, I’m prioritizing the actual issues that need to be tackled to save my people.
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     Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:03 JST Coon Appreciater

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     @sapphire @SuperLutheran >"I'm not ignoring it I'm just saying it's not a real issue and shouldn't be given any attention"
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:04 JST sapphire

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     @SuperLutheran @MeBigbrain I believe one is infinitely more important than the other.
     
     Christians have been arguing the autistic minutiae of Christianity for 2000 years and can start that fight again any time, except for the fact that a very real and secular threat to our very existence exists
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     Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:04 JST Coon Appreciater

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     @sapphire @SuperLutheran Ignoring the spiritual aspect of the struggle to focus on the material is simply leaving your flank unguarded
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:05 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @sapphire @MeBigbrain Oh trust me, I want America to get fixed up and reformed as well. I'm an American, so that's what I work toward. I hope the same for Euros fren
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:05 JST sapphire

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     @SuperLutheran @MeBigbrain oh no I meant prioritizing nationalism before prioritizing church reform. Fix your nation, fix your communion with God, then build churches and evangelize
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     SuperLutheran (kicky half) (superlutheran@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Mar-2024 05:36:05 JST SuperLutheran (kicky half)

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     @sapphire @MeBigbrain I believe in doing both at once, since everyone has a different calling. But then again, more people are called to fix political issues than religious ones.