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   Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:00:29 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

   • Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:
   @tk Everything about airlines and planes just sucks.
   Inefficient, expensive, security theater, airports are meh at best, least amount of space.
   
   Meanwhile trains are quite like trams but comfier and with enough space to use a laptop and eat.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:13:47 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @tk Also a thing you can do on trains here is take your bicycle with you (with hour limits for regional trains that's pretty much non-peak hours and reservation required in summer).
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:36:42 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @a1ba @tk Yeah for *really* long distances or where the train lines sucks a plane makes more sense (although when the train lines suck the airplane lines are rarely better).
     Or you make it a sort of road trip like americans so often do.
     
     Also how the fuck does it takes you two hours to get to the airport?
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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:36:43 JST :umu: :umu:

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     @lanodan @tk
     >trains ... comfier
     
     Sorry but you're living in Europe and don't have long distance trains. Try like Moscow <-> Qaraghandy train. It's almost two and a half days trip. Five days total of my vacation is GONE. Compared of two hour-ish trip to the airport and three hours of suffering on airplane, I would pick the latter.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:38:37 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @a1ba @tk btw the reason I'm making the case for trains is how absurdly often people take the plane on a regular basis for inner-country trips, not vacation stuff.
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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:39:44 JST :umu: :umu:

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     @lanodan @tk
     
     >Also how the fuck does it takes you two hours to get to the airport?
     
     It's just Moscow being the hostile to the idea of navigating in it and Sheremetevo being the worst airport ever.
     
     It takes an hour from my place to the train station that goes to the airport, and an hour on the train.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:47:17 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @a1ba @tk An hour by train, damn, even for one that stops at a bunch of stations this would be *slow*.
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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:49:45 JST :umu: :umu:

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     • Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:
     @drq @tk @lanodan yeah, there are two countries like that. Russia and USA. The difference is that Russia at least have SOME railway system.
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     Dr. Quadragon ❌ (drq@mastodon.ml)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:49:46 JST Dr. Quadragon ❌

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     @a1ba @tk Still, depends on how big your country is. Ours is 1/-fucking-6 of the whole dry land.

     @lanodan

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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:49:47 JST :umu: :umu:

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     @lanodan @tk yeah, can agree.
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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:54:41 JST :umu: :umu:

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     @drq @lanodan @tk (I hate airports)
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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:54:42 JST :umu: :umu:

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     • Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:
     @drq @lanodan @tk in this case it's Sheremetevo just fucking sucks.
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     Dr. Quadragon ❌ (drq@mastodon.ml)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:54:44 JST Dr. Quadragon ❌

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     @lanodan Transportation is hard. Like energy, it's never as clear-cut, as some would like you to believe. Nothing is black and white, context matters.

     @tk @a1ba

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:57:28 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:
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     @drq @tk @a1ba Yeah, I'm not saying it's not hard.
     But there's a lot of fucked up cases, specially when you account for the worst ones (like when a line is closed for the season and makes a trip go from 6h to 12h).
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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:57:49 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     @a1ba @drq @lanodan Airports are just overpriced malls that planes happen to stop at. :blobfoxdisgust:
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     Dr. Quadragon ❌ (drq@mastodon.ml)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 11:58:16 JST Dr. Quadragon ❌

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     @a1ba Moscow fucking sucks. Its transit infrastructure fucking sucks, despite all the effort. Roads suck due to lack of effort. Countryside sucks as well, because there's nothing there.

     @tk @lanodan

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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 12:00:49 JST :umu: :umu:

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     • Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:
     @tk @drq @lanodan this
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     Dr. Quadragon ❌ (drq@mastodon.ml)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 12:01:55 JST Dr. Quadragon ❌

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     • ChristopherBRobin

     @ChristopherBRobin Clearly your standard of "nothing" is a generous one.

     @tk @lanodan @a1ba

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     ChristopherBRobin (christopherbrobin@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 12:01:56 JST ChristopherBRobin

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     • Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:
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     I've never seen a single liquor store that will sell you a 10 gallon bottle of liquor like it's nothing. They'll do it there though.
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     Dr. Quadragon ❌ (drq@mastodon.ml)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 12:03:53 JST Dr. Quadragon ❌

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     • ChristopherBRobin

     @ChristopherBRobin Not in my country.

     @tk @marine @lanodan @a1ba

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     ChristopherBRobin (christopherbrobin@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 12:03:54 JST ChristopherBRobin

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     • The Problem :verified_pink:
     Is there a limit on how much liquor you can sell in a container or something?
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     The Problem :verified_pink: (marine@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 12:03:55 JST The Problem :verified_pink:

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     @ChristopherBRobin @tk @drq @lanodan @a1ba because airports won’t lose their liquor license.

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 12:06:03 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • ChristopherBRobin
     @drq @ChristopherBRobin @tk @marine @a1ba Pretty sure you can buy that kind of amount in France without question, will just be expensive.
     
     Weird as fuck to have that in airports though given that there's no way you're taking 10 gallons of whatever on a plane.
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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 12:08:32 JST :umu: :umu:

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     • ChristopherBRobin
     @ChristopherBRobin @tk @drq @lanodan I once boarded a plane so fucking drunk, they looked at me hoping I wouldn't cause them problems yet still allowed me to board.
     
     And this was the best flight because I asleep the second the plane took off and awaken when everybody already left the plane.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 12:10:28 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @a1ba @tk @ChristopherBRobin @drq Reminds me of one of my Dad's colleague purposefully getting drunk in SF-Paris airplanes to doze of.
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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 12:11:20 JST :umu: :umu:

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     • ChristopherBRobin
     @ChristopherBRobin @tk @drq @lanodan yeah.
     
     Basically a teleport
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     ChristopherBRobin (christopherbrobin@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 12:11:21 JST ChristopherBRobin

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     Very nice, skipped all the boring parts
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     Dr. Quadragon ❌ (drq@mastodon.ml)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 12:12:10 JST Dr. Quadragon ❌

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     • ChristopherBRobin

     @ChristopherBRobin Come to Russia. Large liquor bottles galore.

     Good ones are not cheap, still cheaper than airport stuff though.

     @tk @marine @lanodan @a1ba

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     I noticed it first when I was in Dallas Fort Worth International and also when I was down in El Salvador. Both places just had this giant display bottle in the front and a few more bottles in the back it looked like they'd be willing to sell.
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     • ChristopherBRobin

     @ChristopherBRobin @tk @drq @lanodan @a1ba likely depends on the locale. But airports don’t care because you’re not gonna be there forever, so it’s harder to trace they sold it to you versus a local liquor store.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 13:03:16 JST iced depresso

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     @a1ba @tk @lanodan
     > It's just Moscow being hostile to the idea of navigating in it
     old organic city problems?
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     :umu: :umu: (a1ba@suya.place)'s status on Friday, 23-Feb-2024 13:11:23 JST :umu: :umu:

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     @icedquinn @tk @lanodan there is nothing organic in this abomination
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     Завтра Будет Теплей (dotterian@fireshark.social)'s status on Saturday, 24-Feb-2024 06:55:41 JST Завтра Будет Теплей

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     @drq @a1ba @tk @lanodan
     to drive point home:
     It takes for me at least 8 hours on a plane to get from the place where I live, to the place where I was born.
     On a train it takes whole week! People are writing books and shooting documentaries about this particular train trip!
     
     But, yeah, if you're choosing between 1.5 hours on a plane and 5 hours on a train, there almost no reason to take plane since there are all this stupid security rituals and airports usually located outside of the city, while train stations are inside. Your "1.5 hour trip" in reality will take at least 3 hours of your life.

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 24-Feb-2024 07:01:14 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Завтра Будет Теплей
     @dotterian @drq @a1ba @tk Yeah, people got to count the entire time passed from their origin (home) to their destination, and with airplanes it makes such a huge difference as it's at least outside the city or in another one entirely (specially International™ ones where it's about one per country).