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   Hänzi Pōtter (hszakher@mastodon.world)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2024 19:01:39 JST Hänzi Pōtter

   • Mostafa Hussein Omar

   @moftasa why should they?

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     • Mostafa Hussein Omar

     @hszakher @moftasa

     #Eurovision #Eurovision2024

     If #Palestine should be able to compete in the #ESC ist an interesting, but still maybe the wrong question.

     The precursor, Le Grand Prix d'Eurovision de la Chanson Européenne, was conceived as a contest b/w *European* nations. It is not a globally "open" contest, as in sports.

     Therefore, any nation not located on the European continental shelf, should not be able to participate.

     #Palestine, not...

     https://mastodon.online/@moftasa/111974489979886546

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     • Mostafa Hussein Omar

     @hszakher @moftasa

     #Eurovision #Eurovision2024
     #Music #Israel #Palestine

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     ...#Palestine, not being located in Europe and lacking statehood (alas,) could not qualify by this logic.

     Also, the #ESC *not* being the #Olympics, somewhat has a history of excluding waring parties.

     However, this is not how it really works:

     "Participation in the contest is 👉primarily open to all broadcasters with active EBU membership. To become an active member of...

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     @hszakher @moftasa

     #Eurovision #Eurovision2024
     #Music #Israel #Palestine

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     ...the #EBU, 👉a broadcaster has to be from a country which is covered by the European Broadcasting Area or a member state of the Council of Europe.👈"

     So, my final take for #Palestinians is to have a TV broadcaster join the EBU and to extend the European Broadcasting Area to that region. Looking at the map of the region, if Israel is "in" it, then Palestine should be, too.

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     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest

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     • Mostafa Hussein Omar

     @moftasa
     Very welcome.
     I learned something in the process--had always wondered about Israel and Australia.

     @hszakher

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     • HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴

     @HistoPol @hszakher Thank you for the context and explanation.

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     • Peter Krefting

     @nafmo

     #ESC #EBU #Palestine #Eurovision

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     Thank you for this interesting piece.
     I went back to the original source, and yes, if all these countries are EBU members, Palestine would not be ineligible due to the location criterion:

     "EBU member broadcasters, who have never entered the song contest, currently operate in Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Tunisia, and the Vatican State."

     However, it misses out with regard to the statehood criterion, based on...

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     • Mostafa Hussein Omar

     @HistoPol @hszakher @moftasa

     From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Broadcasting_Corporation :

     "The broadcasting corporation is a former European Broadcasting Union associate member, and was alleged to have held negotiations with the European Broadcasting Union to become a full active members. However, Palestine is not a member of the required organisations, and thus does not comply with the criteria."

     #EBU #Eurovision #Palestine #PBC

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     @nafmo @hszakher @moftasa

     #ESC #EBU #Palestine #Eurovision

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     ...what was written about the #Kosovo, but not #Kasachstan in this 2012 article:

     "However, as #Kosovo is not a member of the #UnitedNations, it can’t either be a member of the #InternationalTelecommunicationsUnion without the agreement of two thirds of the Union. So until Kosovo becomes a member of #ITU it can’t be an #EBU member, or participate at #EurovisionSongContest."

     https://esctoday.com/36606/new-ebu-members-not-very-likely/

     h/: It seems like...

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     @nafmo @hszakher @moftasa

     #ESC #EBU #Palestine #Eurovision

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     ...as with most issues regarding Palestine nowadays, a #TwoStateSolution is the only way to go. /h

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