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   Jan Penfrat (ilumium@eupolicy.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 20:38:22 JST Jan Penfrat

   • murena

   I just installed @murena's #deGoogled :android: #Android /e/OS on a #Pixel5 with their free #EasyInstaller app and God has this become a simple task.

   I mean *anybody* with basic computer skills and a compatible phone can get themselves a more #privacy-friendly Android with this. 💞

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     Børge (forteller@tutoteket.no)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 20:38:16 JST Børge

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     • GrapheneOS

     @GrapheneOS Interesting link, thank you. Do you have any plans to expand the types of devices you support? I'd love to be able to use Graphene on the open hardware Fairphone 5.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 20:38:17 JST GrapheneOS

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     • Paolo Vecchi

     @paolo @ilumium It always uses multiple Google services whether or not microG is used. See https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm which covers some but not all of the non-microG Google connections. They integrate microG with privileged access and that makes connections to Google too, and unfortunately without preserving important standard security checks for those.

     This really doesn't matter compared to the disaster of having such incomplete and significantly delayed privacy/security patches and other issues.

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     Paolo Vecchi (paolo@mastodon.opencloud.lu)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 20:38:19 JST Paolo Vecchi

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     • Nextcloud ?☁️?
     • murena
     • microG Project

     @ilumium I'm not seeing any connection to Google from my @murena phones, do you?
     @nextcloud @microg

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     Jan Penfrat (ilumium@eupolicy.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 20:38:20 JST Jan Penfrat

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     • Nextcloud ?☁️?
     • microG Project

     And before you reply Oh they're just stealing from #LineageOS and also use an outdated #Bromite and there is still connections with Google servers, etc:

     Yes, but the OS ships with an auto-updating app store, a free email address plus @nextcloud account, and a fully functioning @microg. This is what non-techies need.

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     Børge (forteller@tutoteket.no)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 20:46:56 JST Børge

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     • GrapheneOS

     @GrapheneOS I was thinking of this https://www.fairphone.com/en/2024/01/24/have-you-seen-the-schematics-for-the-fairphone-5/

     Sorry for the misunderstanding.

     Anyways, will we forever have to choose between supporting Google monetarily or using a less privacy aware ROM, or will you ever support other devices (with warnings and caveats)?

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2024 20:46:57 JST GrapheneOS

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     • Børge

     @forteller Fairphone 5 is not open hardware. It's a proprietary smartphone with a completely proprietary SoC and other components. Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, cellular, touchscreen, battery, SSD, memory and everything else it uses is proprietary. It's not clear where you got the idea that it's open hardware. Many people are also under the misconception that the Librem and Pinephone devices are open hardware when they are not.

     Fairphones are blatantly insecure and don't meet many of our requirements.