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   Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 07:00:56 JST Tim Chambers

   • flere-imsaho

   @mawhrin In this bridge, the privacy properties and assumptions are that it only applies to public posts on both sides of the bridge, no?

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 07:10:55 JST Tim Chambers

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     • phweezil zappa :flow:

     @timmy @mawhrin

     Well, I'd counter that every bit of Mastodon posts that are public are searchable too by one means or another.

     https://www.google.com/search?q=+%40timothy.chambers%40indieweb.social+&sca_esv=de3b8b35270c999b&source=hp&ei=s-jLZZHnOoLk0PEP5_ySyAM&iflsig=ANes7DEAAAAAZcv2xGkkAI359oPuXu44qiMoewEPii8k&ved=0ahUKEwjRjJC8qqmEAxUCMjQIHWe-BDkQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=+%40timothy.chambers%40indieweb.social+&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IiMgQHRpbW90aHkuY2hhbWJlcnNAaW5kaWV3ZWIuc29jaWFsIEjMe1CuA1jGdnAIeACQAQCYAccBoAGzLaoBBDAuNDO4AQPIAQD4AQGoAgrCAhAQABgDGI8BGOUCGOoCGIwDwgIQEC4YAxiPARjlAhjqAhiMA8ICDhAAGIAEGIoFGLEDGIMBwgIOEC4YgAQYxwEYrwEYjgXCAggQABiABBixA8ICBBAAGAPCAgUQABiABMICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIFEC4YgATCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICBBAAGB7CAgYQLhgeGArCAgYQABgeGArCAgYQABgIGB4&sclient=gws-wiz

     And with 12 MM registered users, 1.2 MM of which are active any given month public posts here are in a firehose already.

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     phweezil zappa :flow: (timmy@goblin.camp)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 07:10:57 JST phweezil zappa :flow:

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     • flere-imsaho

     @tchambers @mawhrin even given that, there is a large difference between posting public on a mastodon instance and posting to the ATproto firehose. It's an intensely searchable protocol and the level of expected privacy is radically different

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 12:17:34 JST Tim Chambers

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     • phweezil zappa :flow:
     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama

     @mima @timmy @mawhrin That is a good example. And the Fediverse already bridges over into networks like Frendica, and into privately owned social nets like Micro DOT blog, and Flipboard, and Wordpress.com

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     :mima_rule: Mima-sama (mima@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2024 12:17:39 JST :mima_rule: Mima-sama

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     • phweezil zappa :flow:

     @tchambers@indieweb.social #Misskey for example also has #fulltextsearch already for every #fediverse post that it saw, so unless their #Mastodon instance decides to switch to allowlist federation and block every Misskey and other fediverse instances that ignores the proprietary "consent setting" for full-text search, their expectation of "#privacy" (if you can even call it that considering #ActivityPub's design) has been broken long ago.
     
     Mastodon really is an outlier. :seija_coffee:
     
     @timmy@goblin.camp @mawhrin@circumstances.run