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   #ArtFed (bobmastodon@universeodon.com)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 04:55:07 JST #ArtFed

   • Ryan Wild

   @wild1145 Hi Ryan 👋
   Do you know why dobbs.town is suspended? It says "Suspended / Reason not available"

   I have several friends on there.

   Thanks!

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     Jeffrey Phillips Freeman (freemo@mastodon.acm.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 04:55:06 JST Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

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     • Oliphantasmal Force
     • Sir Rochard 'Dock' Bunson
     • Ryan Wild

     @SrRochardBunson

     Actually Oliphant doesnt use his "judgement" at all. He describes the process he uses. He basically just takes a bunch of instances that have a reputation for being **very** abusive in their moderation process and doing no due dilligance and just says if your on any of those lists (following his rules) you get on his list automatically.

     This process includes instances list mastodon.art with no due dilligrance.

     @wild1145 @BobMastodon @oliphant

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     Ryan Wild (wild1145@universeodon.com)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 04:55:07 JST Ryan Wild

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     • Oliphantasmal Force

     @BobMastodon It looks like they are on the @oliphant Unified Minimum Block list which we've started to use. That would suggest there's been some serious issues with the instance historically. Let me do some digging to see if I can find out any more on why the instance is recommended to be blocked. It may well be a historic issue that has shifted, or it might be that the instance fails to moderate / administer properly in which case I'd personally suggest your friends shift instances to an instance that does moderate. It's worth saying they're going to be blocked by a fairly large number of instances as this block list is generally trusted as a absolute bare minimum block list and they may want to consider moving anyway for that reason.

     I'll take a look probably tomorrow being honest and get back to you.

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     Sir Rochard 'Dock' Bunson (srrochardbunson@universeodon.com)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 04:55:07 JST Sir Rochard 'Dock' Bunson

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     • Oliphantasmal Force
     • Ryan Wild

     @wild1145 @BobMastodon

     Thanks Ryan!

     @oliphant is awesome and I trust his judgement. I was more curious the reason & not neccessarily disputing it.

     Lack of moderation may be the case, as @onan is good people but has an anarchic/libertarian streak.

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     Jeffrey Phillips Freeman (freemo@mastodon.acm.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 05:25:59 JST Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

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     • Oliphantasmal Force
     • Ryan Wild

     @wild1145

     The fact that the active user count on your instance has dropped by 75% in the last half a year or so and has continually dropped every single day for the last 6 months it would seem to suggest this is not true.

     In fact it suggests your user base is quite unhappy and leaving in record numbers. Say what you will but the facts say otherwise.

     @BobMastodon @oliphant

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     Ryan Wild (wild1145@universeodon.com)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 05:25:59 JST Ryan Wild

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     • Oliphantasmal Force
     • Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

     @freemo @BobMastodon @oliphant The block list was imported around 2 weeks ago... The drop in user activity is consistent with a number of servers and has zero to do with the fact we've imported a block list. It was imported because we saw a huge surge in instances posting CSAM and other abusive materials which we recognised to be on the block list.

     Please stop stating these things as if you have any real data on this, when you clearly do not.

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     Ryan Wild (wild1145@universeodon.com)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 05:26:00 JST Ryan Wild

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     • Oliphantasmal Force
     • Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

     @freemo @BobMastodon @oliphant We've used the blocklist which we use on other instances without issue, and that .art has no ability to veto or heavily influence. I've vetted this list over the last year and have seen it to be an overwhelming benefit to our ability to effectively moderate.

     We only make use of the T0 blocklist and have never had any issues with instances on it being ones users of our communities actually wish to interact with.

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     Jeffrey Phillips Freeman (freemo@mastodon.acm.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 05:26:01 JST Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

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     • Oliphantasmal Force
     • Ryan Wild

     @wild1145

     WOW you guys switched to this **incredibly** abusive list that is based, partly, on the mastodon.art list which is notoriously abusive and does absolutely no due diligence.

     Very disappointed in Universeodon at making such an abusive and negligent decision. One of the things that got them respected int he community is they used to be one of the few servers who actually did due diligence on their moderation.

     I will be announcing this to the UFoI next meeting.

     @BobMastodon @oliphant

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     Jeffrey Phillips Freeman (freemo@mastodon.acm.org)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 09:13:09 JST Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

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     • Oliphantasmal Force
     • BlueDot🇺🇦
     • Ryan Wild

     @BlueDot

     Huh? Not only do we block racists, we have actively blocked tons of them and explicitly state we will do so in our rules.

     Can you give an example of a racist that has ever showed up on our instance (been boosted or has an account there) that didnt get blocked, even just one? I'll wait.

     @wild1145 @BobMastodon @oliphant

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     BlueDot🇺🇦 (bluedot@left-tusk.com)'s status on Sunday, 11-Feb-2024 09:13:14 JST BlueDot🇺🇦

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     • Oliphantasmal Force
     • Ryan Wild
     • Jeffrey Phillips Freeman

     @freemo

     Well qoto.org, for example, is defederated from my instance because they won't block racists.

     Is that information out of date? If not, don't blame the block list.

     #FediBlock
     @wild1145 @BobMastodon @oliphant