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   Andy Wootton (woo@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 03:57:02 JST Andy Wootton

   • Thomas 🔭🕹️

   @thomasfuchs I'm currently scanning monochrome photographic prints from the 1940s and trying to guess if JPEG, PNG or PDF will last longest :-/.

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     Sean D (seanddotmedotuk@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 04:01:17 JST Sean D

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     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     • Christopher Mackay 🇨🇦
     • Bruce Lawson ✅ (quiet time)

     @tantramar @thomasfuchs @brucelawson Renders perfectly fine. I.e. Doesn't blink.

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     Christopher Mackay 🇨🇦 (tantramar@nojack.easydns.ca)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 04:01:19 JST Christopher Mackay 🇨🇦

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     • Bruce Lawson ✅ (quiet time)

     @thomasfuchs @brucelawson <blink> 🙃

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     coldclimate (coldclimate@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 04:03:11 JST coldclimate

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs YES

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     Jessa • Femularity.ai (iversusai@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 04:03:27 JST Jessa • Femularity.ai

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs
     I'd love to see a live example.

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     Boris Schapira (boostmarks@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 04:10:43 JST Boris Schapira

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs and faster than any js-fueled lage coded on the last 10 years.

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     Jack Yan (甄爵恩) (jackyan@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 05:30:53 JST Jack Yan (甄爵恩)

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs Weʼve recently been putting back pages we deleted in the late 1990s (when hosting plans had limited space) and theyʼre largely fine. Been fun to go down memory lane. If anything, the content is terrible (e.g. limited length because there were no mouse scroll wheels) but the tech is fine!

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     Dr. Matt Lee 🎃 (mattl@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 05:31:43 JST Dr. Matt Lee 🎃

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs Here's my fucking HTML page from 1994 served over HTTPS.

     https://mat.tl/archive/1994.htm

     I wrote it on a computer with 64kb RAM, stuck it on a floppy disk and uploaded it later. I edited it later a little to remove my old email address.

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     Daniel Luz (dluz@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 06:15:57 JST Daniel Luz

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs For now! Give it a few more years and you'll be required to reboot your device in insecure mode to use that filthy bare HTTP

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     Karl Auerbach (karlauerbach@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 06:44:04 JST Karl Auerbach

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs A 30 year old HTML page may still render, but the Flash video it contained probably can't be played. I consider the removal of Flash (despite its security flaws) to be a kind of vandalism by Adobe.

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     Dick Morrell (cloudguy@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Thursday, 08-Feb-2024 10:28:23 JST Dick Morrell

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs

     I just wish Mosaic worked with https pages as I demo'd it to my kids the other day and of course SSL hadn't been invented way back when

     Actually

     I want my Compuserve account back

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     Andy Wootton (woo@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 06:10:27 JST Andy Wootton

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     • Jeff Moore

     @jbm @thomasfuchs I'm very old. Vinyl and CDs 'are my jam', as the hip cats say. I (my son actually) used MP3 then moved to FLAC on a Cowan player when FOSS picked it.

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     Jeff Moore (jbm@ohai.social)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 06:10:33 JST Jeff Moore

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     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @woo @thomasfuchs

     AIFF has been around in its current form since 1989...

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     Andy Wootton (woo@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 06:10:34 JST Andy Wootton

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs Yeah but I thought that about sound files :-)

     PNG is lossless but BIG.

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     Jeff Moore (jbm@ohai.social)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 06:33:11 JST Jeff Moore

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     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs @woo

     I'll forever resent and avoid using Apple Lossless (AKA ALAC), because it was transparently invented by Apple to mimic the functionality of the already-existing FLAC so that Apple-bundled software could store music in a technically comparable format yet not support the emerging losslessly-compressed PCM standard used by absolutely everyone but Apple, FLAC.

     This was obviously done to make it painful for users habituated to using Apple's music software to buy music elsewhere.

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     Jeff Moore (jbm@ohai.social)'s status on Friday, 09-Feb-2024 06:33:13 JST Jeff Moore

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs @woo

     I concur. I've been hesitating to post too voluminously about audio on a thread initially about the magic of the continued usefulness of old HTML pages, but since a few people have been welcoming my side-journey to audio format longevity...

     Yes, I concur with @thomasfuchs about the usefulness of FLAC. It's unsurprisingly the format I've standardized on for PCM audio–offers a useful amount of compression while being lossless, includes good tagging support.

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     ozamidas (ozamidas@floss.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Feb-2024 02:29:00 JST ozamidas

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs a lot of #react and modern web developers would take offense at your statement.

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     Nire Bryce (nirebryce@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 07-Mar-2024 08:33:22 JST Nire Bryce

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs and costs basically nothing to serve

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     Cqoicebordel ❎ (cqoicebordel@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 00:07:15 JST Cqoicebordel ❎

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs
     To be fair, between the deprecation of <blink> and <frameset> and lots of others, that's not _exactly_ right.
     But yeah, the fact that HTML is plain text and human readable make it even renderable by futur generations :)

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Mar-2024 07:38:47 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     @thomasfuchs I wish it would go the other way around as well, being able to render modern pages with a 1993 browser. (tls-proxy accepted)