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   Scott Williams 🐧 (vwbusguy@mastodon.online)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:20:33 JST Scott Williams 🐧

   It looks like my #studentloan payments just abruptly went up by $1,000/mo. again. So, I guess this will be three times I've had to re-apply for a IDR/SAVE plan with #MOHELA in the past 3 months.

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     Scott Williams 🐧 (vwbusguy@mastodon.online)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:20:31 JST Scott Williams 🐧

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     • Papá Robot

     @papa_robot I think it's genuinely hard for people who aren't dealing with student loans and PSLF to grasp just how incredibly broken this whole system is.

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     Joel :void: :casio: (joel@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:20:31 JST Joel :void: :casio:

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     • Papá Robot

     @vwbusguy @papa_robot I paid like 60 bucks per semester and I will pay like, 300 bucks to get my degree. I don't understand the US education system :blobcatderpy:

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:20:31 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Joel :void: :casio:

     @joel What does that have to do with america? You are literally paying a small fraction of what people pay in pretty much any country in the world, including most of europe.

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     Papá Robot (papa_robot@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:20:32 JST Papá Robot

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     @vwbusguy WTF ? are there fixed-interest loans ? I'm about to apply for one :(

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     Scott Williams 🐧 (vwbusguy@mastodon.online)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:20:32 JST Scott Williams 🐧

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     @papa_robot It defaults back to a Standard Repayment if there's no other plan. MOHELA effectively just put me on the SAVE plan for about a month before sending a letter saying I am back on the default Standard Repayment but without saying why. Naturally, their website warns they are experience very high call volume right now.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:23:33 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Papá Robot

     @papa_robot

     Yea, like America. But again despite many countries having it, very few have it anywhere near the price you mentioned.

     @joel

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     Papá Robot (papa_robot@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:23:34 JST Papá Robot

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo @joel
     i it called public education , when it is not treated as
     a business. many countries have it

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:28:21 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Papá Robot

     @papa_robot

     Why did you just link me to a map related to something we arent discussing (free college offered specifically to international students) instead of a link to what we are discussing (public college that is cheap to everyone)?

     @joel

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     Papá Robot (papa_robot@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:28:22 JST Papá Robot

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo @joel
     https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-free-college

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:31:24 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @papa_robot

     Regardless your link doesnt address the discussion.. What does inexpensive public college have to do with the USA which has inexpensive public colleges as well? Why call out america as opposed to the many countries that do not have public colleges, like some of the ones in europe?

     @joel

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     Papá Robot (papa_robot@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:31:25 JST Papá Robot

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo @joel
     not for everyone. even in india and mx, you have to either met the requirement or score high in the national exams

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:35:40 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @papa_robot

     What are you on about... not a single one of our public colleges are that expensive. You are thinking of private institutions, which again also exist in Europe and are just as expensive.

     Public colleges are single digits and below here.

     @joel

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     Papá Robot (papa_robot@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:35:41 JST Papá Robot

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo @joel
     the "inexpensive" college in USA is around 200-300K

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:38:15 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Joel :void: :casio:

     @joel Huh? "this kind of response"... what kind? Why would you have to think much about things... no one said you said anything morally wrong, what would you have had to think of?

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     Joel :void: :casio: (joel@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:38:16 JST Joel :void: :casio:

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo hey, I don't know what triggered this kind of response?

     It's over 10 PM, I just made a funny comment on this little corner of the internet and don't think much about things alright? Have a good night!

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:46:36 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @papa_robot

     Absolutely false. Cheapest public/community college in the USA is Luna Community College, tuition is only $886.

     @joel

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     Papá Robot (papa_robot@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:46:37 JST Papá Robot

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     • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @freemo @joel
     USA:
     $194,040 a nonprofit private for 4 years

     $85,480 4y in the cheapest public college (in state).

     cheapest is my state $32,000 per year

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:49:58 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @papa_robot

     inb4: Before you try to move the goal post again and claim your limiting yourself to 4y colleges.. Well even there you are wrong. Cheapest 4 year college is only $1,640 total. California State University–Dominquez Hills

     @joel

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:50:47 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @papa_robot

     Saw that goal post getting moved a mile away. You are still wrong. Cheapest 4 year public school is still no where near the prices you mentioned at the cheapest being only $1.6K net.

     https://qoto.org/@freemo/111882731189351809

     @joel

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     Papá Robot (papa_robot@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:50:48 JST Papá Robot

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     @freemo @joel
     LOLOLOL .. oh yeah and trade school costs $5,000 to $15,000. ... I'm talking about universities.

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     Joel :void: :casio: (joel@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:52:17 JST Joel :void: :casio:

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     @freemo alright I'll answer the original comment then.

     It has nothing to do with the US, I live in Mexico and I just said what I paid for comparison. You say the US has cheap education too. Sure, I've never seen anyone comment how glad they are they took public cheap education in the US, only complaints and loans and whatever else, maybe I'm just not exposed to the right people or whatever, that's just what I've seen and if its a wrong viewpoint then let it be wrong :blobcatderpy:

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:52:17 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @joel

     > that's just what I've seen and if its a wrong viewpoint then let it be wrong

     That seems like an odd statement. Almost comes across that your offended because someone is correcting something. Nothing rude with correcting something.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:57:03 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @papa_robot

     So was I. The school I mentioned, despite being the cheapest in the USA is ranked decently. But yea keep moving that goal post.

     @joel

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     Papá Robot (papa_robot@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:57:04 JST Papá Robot

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     @freemo @joel
     suit yourself, you can speak about kindergarten if you want. I was talking about ranked universities. like UNAM mx, IPN, etc.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 13:59:07 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @papa_robot

     I specifically told you both the cheapest public 2year and cheapest public 4 year college in the USA. I pulled it from a list of over 25 colleges all under $2k.

     Given that I already told you the cheapest and the price, why did you go and get a list of schools that are clearly much higher in tuition knowing it was already shown to you that there are many cheaper schools?

     We call that cherry pickinging. just spewing through links till you find one that backs up your argument while ignoring all the counter-evidence along the way.

     @joel

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     @freemo @joel

     maybe, I was using the averages. let's see the cheapest

     https://www.topuniversities.com/student-info/student-finance/how-much-does-it-cost-study-us

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 14:01:45 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @joel I get that, I am just confused why if it simply didnt interest you you went through multiple messages now to point out it didnt interest you and then talked about it. Why do through all that trouble rather than just do what most people do when a discussion isnt interested for them... just dont join it.

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     Joel :void: :casio: (joel@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 14:01:46 JST Joel :void: :casio:

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     @freemo its not that I don't want to be corrected its just that it doesn't concern me at all, if its true or not I already studied and I'm alright.

     I could have never posted that comment, you could've never answered me and my life wouldn't really be affected :blobcatderpy:

     Seriously, I am just joking around don't take this that seriously xD

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 14:23:20 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @joel

     Sleep well, yes just don't respond if you don't want to. If others want to respond they will. You don't need to make it this complicated man, really.

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     Joel :void: :casio: (joel@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Feb-2024 14:23:21 JST Joel :void: :casio:

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     @freemo because this is too funny xD

     "Let it be wrong"
     "Have a good night"
     "Don't take this too seriously"

     All my comments ended in a conclusive manner, if you hadn't replied it would have been over but I guess I keep replying cuz you keep doing it too :blobcatderpy:

     Alright I'll go sleep now

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     James Bartlett :terminal: (jamesdbartlett3@techhub.social)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2024 00:20:31 JST James Bartlett :terminal:

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     @freemo
     That's in-state tuition. It requires that you already be a resident of the state of California. Do you know how expensive it is to live in California?
     @papa_robot @joel

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     @JamesDBartlett3

     Good thing I grabbed it from a list of 25 schools all around the same price in the USA all in different states then huh?

     @papa_robot @joel